Nice stuff I dont know if you mentioned it but what is the distance?
I bought a gen4 Glock 17 for my first pistol recently, when I bought it the range let me shoot 20 rnds out of one of their same gen4 17 range guns for free before I bought it. I think it was 7 yards, the chest group is 10 rnds double handed, the head group is 10 rnds one handed. That was the first time I had ever shot a real gun in my life...And recently a motorcycle accident had left me without good vision in my dominant right eye, so I now have no choice but to switch to my left eye for shooting
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Now the problem is they made me shoot .38 spl out of a .357 mag revolver for my range test shoot on Monday, and even though I thought I would never like or want a revolver. This is 15 rnds at the same 7 yrds in single action
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Dammit now I need to buy a big ass revolver
Revolvers are fun dude, I have owned a tonne, and am currently on the look out for a 627 8 shot, I had one and sold it, worst thing I ever did, was by far the nicest revolver I ever shot.
goal is to have fun. If over time that generates tight groups then great.
With a half hour of proper coaching, tight groups become normal. Not directing this towards you specifically, just making the statement.
Having "fun" is great. What I don't buy from people is that they're only concerned with "fun" but not improving and/or accurate, consistent, on demand performance. Peppering the target and hoping for more hits than misses isn't fun, regardless of what gun you're using.
The "just shoot for fun" answer IMO is a bs cover/validation for not wanting to improve and/or not seeing any improvement. No one engages in any activity without wanting to win or improve. Participation for the result of failure is not inline with being at the top of the evolutionary chain.
Tdc
I also play poker for fun, and have no intention in going to the World Series of Poker. I'm not competing with anybody just having fun, when I go to the range. Not everybody is like you, you need to realize that. Plenty of people engage in activities to have fun, not to try to be the best at it. Jesus do you golf? I haven't seen you on the pga tour have I?
As I said, missing and sucking isn't fun. So I don't buy that excuse as to why people shoot. If they weren't grading themsleves then why use a scored target or post results?
You're right, most aren't like me. I don't golf(its pointless and not fair as the gear isn't standardized) and poker is a game of lying and cheating, and I find it confusing and slow. Regardless, no one enjoys or brags that they lose every week at poker or have a 30 stroke handicap(I think that's how it works?). Most I know don't really play golf, they beat a white ball around while engaging in excessive drinking at steep prices on well manicured lawns.
Tdc
I didn't miss, its just not as tight a group as yours maybe. However, we will never know as you never post anything.
I didn't miss, its just not as tight a group as yours maybe. However, we will never know as you never post anything. All guns are not standardized either so does that make those competitions unfair? Lots of makes and models out there just like golf clubs. Whatever dude lol.
All service pistols are more capable than nearly all who shoot them. Blaming gear is the excuse of the unskilled, which is where these discussions originate. Golf clubs are vastly different as are the balls. How many clubs do you have at your disposal to get the ball in the hole? How many pistols do you get to complete a match? There's variations that some may find advantageous, and then there's buying gear to compensate for lack of skill.
As for my groups. I don't shoot for groups, I'm not interested in tiny groups as a service pistol is the wrong tool for the job. I do end up shooting tight groups when doing drills designed to test the fundamentals, but as I've posted before, slow fire tiny groups on stationary targets from an ideal stance under ideal conditions(warm, no wind, no stress, and good lighting) are worthless.
I strive for adequate fist sized groups as fast as I can from zero to 25 yards and from both conventional and unconventional positions. I'm a practical shooter who strives to improve my ability to put rounds where I want when I want under the umbrella of defensive shooting.
Tdc
And if that makes you happy good for you. What I do makes me happy, and that's fine too. It doesn't make you better then anybody else on this board. You need to stop acting like you are. However, I have bigger fish to fry then to debate you on my hobbie, ill do as I see fit. Work comes early so Im going to bed.
GunGuy34 I absolutely love the G22 RTF2 I bought from you a while back.
I was about to post "I have the exact same Glock and love the RTF2 and it shoots amazing etc" then noticed it was you making this post! I guess you missed it once it was sold?
I have a friend with a G22 Gen4 that prefers mine, and another friend that is now looking for a Glock and says he really prefers it over the M&P40 he fired recently.
I just shoot for fun. If the wife makes me mad than I go to the range and waste a hundred dollars of ammo to blow off steam. That is worth it for me. I have never tried to be the best at anything in my life so far and can't imagine starting at this stage. I have a lot of guns and they are all different so being good with all of them isn't going to happen. It is amazing the differences in the various guns, even my two S&W large frames back to back are very different in the triggers. To me this is a fun hobby, expensive but WTF. I try to take out new shooters every chance I get so they can try a variety of guns. My experience shows me that a good revolver is much easier to shoot accurate than a semi. My BIL has one gun a 9 mm BHP and he is good with this gun, I have many and I have fun. I go to the range I may shoot .22long/WMR, 9mm, .38/.357, 44 Mag, .40 S&W/10mm .45 ACP, .45 Colt. in revolver and/or semi or both so these are very different. I try to have three guns in each calibre it possible. Apples and oranges to someone that shoots 9mm Glock all the time with the one gun. He may be the god of Glock but what ever! My Glock is basically the last gun I take out and the last time I almost didn't even bother to shoot it when I had it at the range.
And there is nothing wrong with it either. Have fun its your hobbie not TDC's. He can practice and practice and take all the lessons he wants if that is what makes him happy. Its not what most of us want. We are firearms enthusest and like to have fun with our hobbie.
I hit Fort McMurray Sept weekend 1979, Blueberry Festival if I remember correctly. That was a crazy time. I lived there a while and left and came back when houses were $60K. We left in 2008 before the crash. Go back a couple times a year to work in Union jobs. Place has changed man.



























