School me on the 375 win please
- Thread starter leeelmer
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Basically its a 30-30 with half again or so as much bullet weight and a quite a bit more frontal area. Very similar trajectory, I consider it as well as my 30-30 200 yard rifles and about perfect for hunting thick timber. I haven't shot anything with my 375 but 220 hornadys would be the load. I've shot cast with mine too the Bullet Barn has bullets designed for the 375 Winchester.
Yup, 220 hornadys and I have no problem shooting Sambar Deer in thick bush with it, I have shot about 8-10 animals and neither of them complained..
trajectory is a little shady but its not a long range cartridge..
I use Williams Peep sights an its accuract enough for hunting!! all day long!
I use AR2207 although its loaded down due to old reloading books, I use 28gr where as you can go up to around 32gr with the same powder... so say im at 1850 an factory is around 2100....
Underrated in what it can do but Adverts on Magnumitis rounds take over... a Real hunters gun.. get nice an close an poke a big hole in em, cycle another if need be but most of mine have dropped with 1 shot.
id imagine not much meat wasted on smaller Deer sized animals as the 220 is pretty stout.
Reloader only really, there is a 200gr factory out there but that's all, an price is high.
I love my 94....
WL
trajectory is a little shady but its not a long range cartridge..
I use Williams Peep sights an its accuract enough for hunting!! all day long!
I use AR2207 although its loaded down due to old reloading books, I use 28gr where as you can go up to around 32gr with the same powder... so say im at 1850 an factory is around 2100....
Underrated in what it can do but Adverts on Magnumitis rounds take over... a Real hunters gun.. get nice an close an poke a big hole in em, cycle another if need be but most of mine have dropped with 1 shot.
id imagine not much meat wasted on smaller Deer sized animals as the 220 is pretty stout.
Reloader only really, there is a 200gr factory out there but that's all, an price is high.
I love my 94....
WL
I have one that I put a Williams peep rear and firesight front sight on, a huge sight improvement in my opinion. It main thing with this caliber is that reloading is almost a must, ammunition can be hard to find and is usually fairly expensive when you do find it. I have cast 250 grain gas checked bullets for mine and they shoot quite well out of it and they are a cheap alternative to jacketed bullets for fun shooting and they could be used for hunting as well.
- Location
- Southern Vancouver Island
The .375 Winchester is one of those often overlooked gems, that with proper selection of bullets & loads for the game intended inside of 150 yds., will cleanly dispatch any critter in North America with a proper shot.
265 gr. hardcast boolits pushed at a leisurely 1500 fps. do the job nicely inside of 100 yds. My BB 94 Winny is
one of my favorites for the bush.
265 gr. hardcast boolits pushed at a leisurely 1500 fps. do the job nicely inside of 100 yds. My BB 94 Winny is
one of my favorites for the bush.
Whelanlad, Is English your second language " I've shot 8-10 animals with it and neither of them complained" Don't take offense with this. Just finished combining for the year and am reading with Nightcaps in my hand and this seemed just a stretch of the grammar I was taught although I forgot most of it.
Keep up the good work I enjoy you posts.
Neil
Keep up the good work I enjoy you posts.
Neil
Haha, what do you mean?
I cant remember exactly if it is 8 or 10 or 12 or more animals I have shot with it?
it reads ok to me lol?
keen to hear which part of it you don't understand?
cheers
WL
BTW- Im Aussie mostly with some throwbacks to Maltese through the Grandfather
bearkilr
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- Nowhere, ......just past the middle
He means using the term "neither" and talking about more than two (8-10 in this case). Grammar Nazi, don't sweat it.
Lol, nice.
- Location
- Somewhere on the Hudson Bay Coast
The .375 Winchester is essential a revitalized .38-55, although perhaps not as far ahead as the Hornady manual might suggest. Ken Waters, who wasn't known for hot-rodding his handloads, lists a .38-55 load of a 255 gr bullet over 37 grs of 4895 for 1844 fps, and his foot notes suggest the load was extremely uniform and accurate. If we then flip back a few pages to compare this to his .375 Winchester data, we see a near maximum load consisting of a 255 gr bullet over 34 grs of Re-7 for 1884 fps. Where the .375 Winchester trumps the older .38-55 is in the availability of modern rifles and components, otherwise, there isn't much to be made of any performance advantage of one cartridge over the other. Clearly both of these cartridges fill a niche, which allows them to be used effectively on game larger than deer, across typical woods ranges.
I'd like to hear your reasoning for this, if not just purely 'because'..
BearKLR.... Ahhhh.. Gotcha! no sweat.
WL
I'd like to hear your reasoning for this, if not just purely 'because'..
BearKLR.... Ahhhh.. Gotcha! no sweat.
WL
It was the "neither of them" which in canadian english means two of them, which undermines the "8-10" you mentioned earlier, I don't think anyone is calling you out though just having a chuckle.
One downside to the .375 win, is ammo availability. As in, it's slim to none, and in calgary, AFAIK it's actually none at the moment. I was looking at building one out of a no4 enfield action, I actually bought a couple .375 barrel blanks, but realized it's much easier to find .375 RUM ammo then it is to find .375 win, and then also realized I have too many irons in the fire and am putting any such project on hold for a while. I do have a bag of .375 win brass ordered from one of our site vendors our east, but it's scarce pickings for .375 win, if you find it, buy lots.
re- 38-55 vs 375 win. Two peas in a pod. The 38-55 factory ammo though loaded taking in account the existence of a lot of 100 plus year old lever actions of fairly weak design and loaded to modest pressure accordingly. The 375 loaded for modern lever actions. To the reloader it doesn't mean a pinch of coon sh*t and you pretty much need to be a reloader to shoot either so. ..
I have a 1979 production 38-55 with a 24" barrel. [Legendary Frontiersman] I really like this rifle a lot.
With it I shot my largest Whitetail buck, and it is quite accurate with Jacketed and cast. I can drive a 255 grain Barnes jacketed to over 1800 with ease.
The 285 grain GC cast bullet will make 1650. These are very effective loads on game out to about 200 yards.
However, factory 38-55 loads are quite "soft" The Winchester 255 grain offerings I chronographed at a leisurely 1250 fps. [Older CIL ammo was closer to 1600]
I put a Williams firesight on front, and the venerable Foolproof aperture on the rear. If I do my part, it will shoot both those bullets into 1¼ moa, plenty good enough.
The 375 will mirror those results, and I can only think that if I had a 375 instead of the 38-55, I would be just as pleased.
One point worth noting is that the 375 has a true .375 groove diameter, whereas the 38-55 varies considerably. [I have slugged these and seen from .3765" right up to .379"[ Mine is .3768"]
My 38-55 does not particularly like the Hornady 220 grain .375" pill, but shoots the 255 grain .375 Barnes designed for the 375 Winchester just fine. I still prefer the 255 Barnes that is listed for the 38-55 at .377" diameter.
Regards, Dave.
With it I shot my largest Whitetail buck, and it is quite accurate with Jacketed and cast. I can drive a 255 grain Barnes jacketed to over 1800 with ease.
The 285 grain GC cast bullet will make 1650. These are very effective loads on game out to about 200 yards.
However, factory 38-55 loads are quite "soft" The Winchester 255 grain offerings I chronographed at a leisurely 1250 fps. [Older CIL ammo was closer to 1600]
I put a Williams firesight on front, and the venerable Foolproof aperture on the rear. If I do my part, it will shoot both those bullets into 1¼ moa, plenty good enough.
The 375 will mirror those results, and I can only think that if I had a 375 instead of the 38-55, I would be just as pleased.
One point worth noting is that the 375 has a true .375 groove diameter, whereas the 38-55 varies considerably. [I have slugged these and seen from .3765" right up to .379"[ Mine is .3768"]
My 38-55 does not particularly like the Hornady 220 grain .375" pill, but shoots the 255 grain .375 Barnes designed for the 375 Winchester just fine. I still prefer the 255 Barnes that is listed for the 38-55 at .377" diameter.
Regards, Dave.
Yeah that's fair enough too..
as mentioned same same but different really, 2 peas in a pod.
here ya go, neither are gunna fail on a deer hunt in scrubby/ bushy/ timber country
Good post eagleeye
WL
