Do you use Steel Shot for Upland Species??

I have used those purple Imperials on many occasions from BB's to number 7's . I still have some left, they are fantastic in quality and load with real Brass base. It was one of the very good products in the market that unfortunately vanished.
 
With the population of coal fired China expected to reach 1.4 billion souls very soon, realistically who gives a feck about a few particles of lead in a swamp most likely already poisoned from fertilizer runoff?

Where I am it's a lot of shot winding up in the water, I understood it was being ingested by various animals. It as toxic as ####, sounds like a bad idea to me.
 
My son and I were grouse hunting this weekend. He used a 410 with steel shot, I used a 12 gauge with steel shot number 7 target loads. Worked great. Much better range than the 410, very accurate, and the target load was light enough for the size of the grouse. Wouldn't use lead shot as it can be toxic to other birds or small animals that might pick it up.
 
Only lead shot for prairie grouse, ruffed and shooting sports. Steel for waterfowl...actually not steel but soft iron... as it is has been federal law for more than a decade. Does steel kill better than lead? No IMO from 31 years of duck shooting with lead.. But lead poisoning of waterfowl was and still is a serious problem on some wetlands. Will notox be mandated for all shotgun shooting inn the future? Likely as the lead hype leads to parinoia. Just look no further than the state of California...
 
So isn't steel and copper toxic when ingested? I think the toxic story is really a way to sell different ammo at a super inflated price. Every where else in the world lead is used in shot gun hunting ammo and there isn't a decrease in waterfowl. The switch was a typical fabricated theory of how many birds were being poisoned. Well now we have a great deal of cripples and lost birds.

One thing that got me was how the MNR in Ontario decided to sanction against lead shot, for dove hunting. Everywhere else including many states, doves are hunted with lead.
 
Lawrence D said:
So isn't steel and copper toxic when ingested? I think the toxic story is really a way to sell different ammo at a super inflated price. Every where else in the world lead is used in shot gun hunting ammo and there isn't a decrease in waterfowl. The switch was a typical fabricated theory of how many birds were being poisoned. Well now we have a great deal of cripples and lost birds.

One thing that got me was how the MNR in Ontario decided to sanction against lead shot, for dove hunting. Everywhere else including many states, doves are hunted with lead.
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Because they are just plain st@pid and want to just appear cool with environmental crowds.

I'm sure their little friends at OFAH were standing up and cheering too!

Free dunce caps all around the room. lol
 
I don't like ducks and geese, so I don't buy steel shot...if I did hunt them it would make sense to use steel so you could shoot a duck if you saw one. Lead is heavier and far more effective than steel shot, your lead shot loaded shell has far more pellets in it than the steel shot loaded equivalent, and makes for a denser pattern and more pellets on target. This translates into more clean effective kills on upland game, all things being equal. The only reason not to use lead shot is if the law demands non toxic shot...and fortunately in most places you can use lead for upland birds.
 
Maxkeg said:
I have used those purple Imperials on many occasions from BB's to number 7's . I still have some left, they are fantastic in quality and load with real Brass base. It was one of the very good products in the market that unfortunately vanished.
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X2, I still have a supply of old Imperial shot shells that I've been able to pick up at gun shows, etc.. They've always worked perfectly on grouse and rabbits and I prefer them to most modern ammunition.
 
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