Light load for a Lee Enfield - so a 12 year old can enjoy shooting it

Purchase a .32acp cartridge adapter.
Its much better than reloading
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I have a 762X39 adaptor. Not tried it yet.
Does anyone know, do these adapters last a long time, or a few dozen shots, or what? Need to know before I look to the reloading option
(or before my gun blows up.)
Thanks. (please PM me about this.)
 
Nothing finer than watching the youth reloading and then shooting the reloads they helped make. My pet 303 load was a cast 180 gr bullet over 12 grains of 700X. They were powder puff loads.
 
sawzall said:
It's funny when I hear stuff like sunray posted about the jungle carbines. You never seem to hear it about .308 "youth" rifles and such which have shorter barrels as well. And .308 is a higher pressure round. Besides that's what hearing protection is for.
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I agree, but I can take the exact same projectile, primer, and powder/powder load: put one in my #4 and another in my #5, and the felt recoil in the #5 is just heavier.
 
tigrr said:
Nothing finer than watching the youth reloading and then shooting the reloads they helped make. My pet 303 load was a cast 180 gr bullet over 12 grains of 700X. They were powder puff loads.
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12-13gr of fast burning pistol powder topped with a cast boolit has always done me well. Bullseye, red dot, win231 and hp38 work as well
 
Pine said:
Purchase a .32acp cartridge adapter.
Its much better than reloading
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WHAT! You do realize that this is the reloading forum, right?

sunray said:
I'd re-think the No. 5 rifle idea. Regardless of the load, its muzzle flash and noise might put him off.
Mind you, his size makes no difference. I've seen big, strapping, teen boys(plus a certain slightly overweight officer who dislikes 'em) whine about a No. 4's felt recoil while a 5 foot nothing 100ish pound girl shot circles around 'em. The length of the No. 4 is really an advantage. Put on a slip on recoil pad and he'll be fine with 150's.
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enefgee said:
There's a cheaper, easier way which doesn't put any strain on precious reloading supplies - buy some dirt cheap surplus 7.62x39. It doesn't matter if it's corrosive or not, so buy the corrosive it's cheaper. Pull the bullet, and dump the powder into a primed 303 case, then seat the x39 bullet. Voila. Cheap, safe, easy on brass and apart from primers your precious stash of components is untouched. Sometimes it helps to put the 762x39 round in a seater and give it a crunch to brake the bullet sealing before pulling the bullet.
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I have done this lots. Works well.

TargetAcquired said:
I agree, but I can take the exact same projectile, primer, and powder/powder load: put one in my #4 and another in my #5, and the felt recoil in the #5 is just heavier.
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thats because of that dang hard rubber butt plate. It seems somehow harder than a steel one.

JR86 said:
12-13gr of fast burning pistol powder topped with a cast boolit has always done me well. Bullseye, red dot, win231 and hp38 work as well
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13gn of Unique, great load.
 
Riflechair

Love that SHTF Enfield rifle but your dressed like the Canadian TV shows "Highway Through Hell" and "Ice road Truckers" when you should have been dressed like "The Walking Dead".

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So next time use the target below for SHTF videos and the accurate Enfield rifle. (only head shots count) :cheers:

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Wierd thing is that...
This is not a show.
I actually dress this way.
Just not when I'm food shopping or socializing.
 
Ganderite said:
I use a 200 gr cast bullet over 12.5 gr of unique. Very accurate, no recoil, and cheap.

R & R sells cast bullets with gas checks.
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I have a pile of GC'd 200gn cast rounds in .303, and that is a load I have not tried. I always have Unique (until I don't I guess), so this intrests me. Will try.
 
Riflechair said:
Wierd thing is that...
This is not a show.
I actually dress this way.
Just not when I'm food shopping or socializing.
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You didn't understand my Zombie humor.

In the book World War Z the book the move was based on, Americans fled north to Canada to escape the Zombies because the Zombies couldn't stand the cold and they would freeze.

BUT that spring when it got warm again the Zombies thawed out and started biting Canadians and Americans alike. You won't have that big of a problem in BC because Zombies don't mind the rain so you need to stock up on plenty of Enfield .303 Zombie ammo and make more No.4 SHTF rifles. ;)

And I have more bad news, they do not make green tip .303 bullets.

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The green tips are only for shooting Zombies and the red tips are for everything else.

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Hornady Zombie Max (the real SHTF ammo)
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2011/10/14/hornady-zombie-max/
 
bigedp51 said:
Cheap plinking load and either Trail Boss or SR-4759 powder, both powders will fill the case and be impossible to double charge the case. I also use this load to fireform my cases using the rubber o-ring method around the rim.

NOTE, these are pistol bullets with soft lead cores, when fired and kicked in the seat of the pants the bullets will expand and fill the bore (obturation) and shoot well in worn bores.

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I've managed to pick up some 85gr. Hornady XTP .312 pistol bullets, and will be using Trail Boss. I see you've seated yours a fair way out- what's your OAL? It looks as though the base of the bullet is about halfway up the neck.
 
The problem with light (short) bullets is due to the need to seat them far from the rifling, so that they are sufficiently gripped by the neck. This can lead to poor accuracy, and worse yet, the possibility of hangfires if at any point the bullet is "in limbo" i.e. neither engraved in the rifling nor still gripped by the neck. This is bullet and chamber throat dependent, so you might avoid both problems.

I like to use gas-checked cast bullets of 150 grs or heavier over a pistol powder for my light loads.
 
Lou, i used 200 gr cast paper jacket over 22 gr IMR4895. Jacob (8 now, almost 9) fired about 15 rds, then he got tired of shooting and ran off with another bored kid at the range. no recoil, no leading, no gas checks. just a loud bang. big bullet dropped about 24 inches at 75 yds ish, so set sights for 400 or 500 yds. burns a bit dirty at the lighter end of the grain scale.
 
Another vote for cast bullets if you are looking for reduced recoil. Recently I have been struggling to find my favorite jacketed 303 bullet, the Hornady 174 gr RN. So I bought a bunch of 180 gr cast/lubed/gas checked bullets from the Bullet Barn. I was at the range today with my first batch of handloads. Imperial brass, CCI 200 primer, 18 grains of H4198 powder. Not much more bump at the back end than a 22. I was shooting my Ruger No1.in 303Brit. Not sure how these bullets would cycle through the LE. Blunt nose might cause some feeding/chambering issues.
 
Ganderite said:
I use a 200 gr cast bullet over 12.5 gr of unique. Very accurate, no recoil, and cheap.

R & R sells cast bullets with gas checks.
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Reviving an old thread here-

Ganderite, do you have an OAL for these?

I have some Bullet Barn 200gr gas checked bullets I want to try using your load above, but I'm having a difficult time reading the marks on the lead to determine when I'm hitting the lands.
 
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