IPSC World Shoot

The guys at the top are capable of some pretty ridiculous stuff.

I watched the top production teams shoot a number of stages, and their split times on long distance targets was just stupid. They got two shots off faster than my 1, and they got 2 A's.
Their confidence on fast swingers at distance was another thing that really separated the pack.
I took 3 shots on most fast swingers in fear of a mike, but only once did I need the 3rd shot. That was a one second (or more) per swinger waste of time. There were quite a few swingers.

On a global perspective, the skill level here in Canada is very sub par.
 
pauls said:
The guys at the top are capable of some pretty ridiculous stuff.

I watched the top production teams shoot a number of stages, and their split times on long distance targets was just stupid. They got two shots off faster than my 1, and they got 2 A's.
Their confidence on fast swingers at distance was another thing that really separated the pack.
I took 3 shots on most fast swingers in fear of a mike, but only once did I need the 3rd shot. That was a one second (or more) per swinger waste of time. There were quite a few swingers.

On a global perspective, the skill level here in Canada is very sub par.
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I did see alot of top guys taking more than 2 shots on swingers as well though. Its is unusual to see that, makes me think this was a very challenging world shoot

nice placing in classic Ivan
 
I don't understand the statement about speed not being important in Canada for PD shooters? Trust me, the top guys are pushing their speed as much as they can.
 
Slavex said:
I don't understand the statement about speed not being important in Canada for PD shooters? Trust me, the top guys are pushing their speed as much as they can.
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I could be wrong but the observation I have from shooting over 80 sanctioned matches in the last two years and training with some of the best guys is that the emphasis is not as much on the speed side of things. Some of the open guys I have trained with do push the speed limits and I realize the open division is more speed oriented but still. For instance the 17 year old Rosko was beating all the top guys and not with Alphas but by going plaid.
 
Take a look at hit factors for matches and compare open standard and production. You may be surprised at just how important speed is to everyone. Taking too much time to shoot A's costs in all divisions. It might just be a local thing you're experiencing
 
cbabes said:
I could be wrong but the observation I have from shooting over 80 sanctioned matches in the last two years and training with some of the best guys is that the emphasis is not as much on the speed side of things. Some of the open guys I have trained with do push the speed limits and I realize the open division is more speed oriented but still. For instance the 17 year old Rosko was beating all the top guys and not with Alphas but by going plaid.
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In my recollection Rosko had lost stages and whole matches because of the bad accuracy, so I would not take any of your "observations" as given.

The main issue is to maintain accuracy while shooting at a good speed. BUT, it is NOT about hosing targets while standing. Most drills you see from your "best guys" are abut standing and shooting 3 targets in a row in front of you (example [1]). While such drills will stress the fundamentals, they won't be anything near you'd see at bigger matches. Unlike us, the top US and World shooters are used to shooting targets at wide angles and getting in and out of positions quickly. For instance, most of the short stages at WS required several positions (often very difficult positions too) and no targets were within 1m from each other, yet it is hard for find a match in Ontario that won't stack multiple targets on the same stand...

You would see that if you actually travel to some good matches in US.

Another point is that after a certain level, the shooting can only be as good as your body is. So, most top people are in a great physical form and are working hard to improve and maintain it. The younger guys have some advantage over older shooters with bad knees, thorn tendons, issues with their back and joint arthritis... But we train to live with that, e.g. one member of Canadian Production team has no feeling in a few fingers of his left arm and he still shooting quite well with it.

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RE2focDDhck
 
euxx said:
Another point is that after a certain level, the shooting can only be as good as your body is. So, most top people are in a great physical form and are working hard to improve and maintain it. The younger guys have some advantage over older shooters with bad knees, thorn tendons, issues with their back and joint arthritis...

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RE2focDDhck
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Eyes, you forgot the eyes.
 
I'm glad you guys have something to talk about and completely missed my point...

Oh, and don't thrill yourself, there is no need to watch that video, the video title show enough of the target presentation to make a call.
 
You mean the drill we got from Rob Leatham? The guy that just won his seventh World title? Yeah, that drill must suck...f:P:
 
Whatever makes you happy, buddy. Though if you re-read your posts, they all about you. My video, me shooting with World Champions, me, me me...

But hey, you did not shoot the World Shoot, or even the Nationals and at Provincials you got your ass handed to you by #7 in the world ranks. :kickInTheNuts:
 
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