Springfield VS Norinco

Springfield M1 Or Norinco 305

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For the price of one basic M1A from Springfield, I can have THREE M305-s rifles, upgraded and tweaked the way I want them. So I vote Norinco.

Norinco rifles can have 'issues' and I am sure they produce a lot more lemons than Springfield. Anybody who buys a Norc had better be aware that the gun may need some work and aftermarket parts [good rear sights are almost mandatory IMO]. However a rifle that gives you 90% of the performance at a third the price...that choice seems like a no-brainer to me.
 
If money is no object, no reason to get a Norinco...

If money is an issue, perfect reason to get a norinco

If you are just going to rip apart the gun and heavily modify it, no need to get a Springfield.


Resurrection thread just in time for halloween:Slavex:
 
This thread is over 9yrs old….(just saying)
My Barney tweaked m305 ran flawlessly and for the money it was a great intro to the platform. I can't say anything negative about the the Norinco but ended up selling it and now waiting for the delivery of my SA SOCOM16.
I'll be able to compare the two once I get the Springfield but I'm fairly certain the Springfield will at least be prettier:)
 
Please don't resurrect this argument. We all know the Norinco M14 will shoot cloverleafs at 800 yds with a NM spring guide a shim and hand loads developed in an afternoon. Please don't beat on us overpriced pretty gun guys anymore. I can't bare the humiliation. It's affecting my ability to perform for my wife so I beg you please stop. I overheard her talking to a guy about his shorty the other day.

I'll admit it. The Chinese are renowned for stealing a design and improving it, quality and price. That's what they do. I can't wait to fly on those Boeing 767 rip offs made by high school shop classes.
 
Got to love these old posts,
My CA Socom18. Took it over to Barney's, We both agreed the rifle was a lotto winner, not a thing wrong on it. The trigger has a really nice clean pull. nothing loose no rattles.
I couldn't be happier. The fit and finish are better then on a new Springfield named rifles,
As for the previous post about china copies. You should know that when the USA Springfield Plant closed in 1968 they sold the M14 Springfield tooling and dies to china. The Springfield 1911 and M14's made today under the Springfield TM, are a representation of these guns using the bought rights trade name of Springfield and using the original blueprints. They are not made with original tooling and dies.
So buy what you think is better,
All new Springfield are nothing more then a copy using new tooling and dies.
As for me I will stick with my Norinco.
 
weenog said:
Got to love these old posts,
My CA Socom18. Took it over to Barney's, We both agreed the rifle was a lotto winner, not a thing wrong on it. The trigger has a really nice clean pull. nothing loose no rattles.
I couldn't be happier. The fit and finish are better then on a new Springfield named rifles,
As for the previous post about china copies. You should know that when the USA Springfield Plant closed in 1968 they sold the M14 Springfield tooling and dies to china. The Springfield 1911 and M14's made today under the Springfield TM, are a representation of these guns using the bought rights trade name of Springfield and using the original blueprints. They are not made with original tooling and dies.
So buy what you think is better,
All new Springfield are nothing more then a copy using new tooling and dies.
As for me I will stick with my Norinco.
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Part of this is semi correct.
 
I'm always baffled by the importance some folks place on the "chain of custody" of the old M14 tooling and dies, like they're the bones of the patron saint of battle-rifles or something.

The end product either works or it doesn't. Sometimes more often one than the other, depending on the manufacturer.
 
Wow this thread is old. And I’m a little surprised at the results of the polls, considering all the Norc haters on CGN. A while ago in another thread, some moron stated that Norc receivers were die cast. When I posted that they were forged, he got his panties all in a knot.
 
It should come as no suprise to anyone that the current Springfield Armory Inc is not the former government arsenal. They would not be manufacturing arms for commercial sale to civilians if it was.
 
Voted Norinco since I have over 2000 rounds through it (2007 M14S) without a malfunction, my M1A has about 1000 rounds through it and has had a few FTEs and major trigger issues in the last 200 rounds. M1A is a beautiful looking rifle and the medium barrel gives better average accuracy but am considering rebarreling the Norinco to see what the results would be if both had the same type of barrel?
Both rifles have had the same mods necessary, Op rod spring guide, gas assm shimmed, changed stocks. Both stock triggers but Norinco has new USGI hammer spring 'cause the original could have been used as a pickup rear spring!
Rodney
 
I have a Springfield Armory National Match and a Norinco M305S.
The nationalatch gets brought out and shot quite a bit.
I don't have the same urge to bring out the Norinco despite it being accurized.
Maybe if I replaced the barrel with a match barrel, the front and rear sights, flash hider, a national match op rod spring guide, a national match trigger group, and maybe a nice wooden stock I would bring it out more?
 
Springfield.

I have yet to own a Norc that hasn't costed more to get running right then a spring field costs new. That last one was oh about $2700 in parts and labour (I do most of my own work, but the new barrel and bolt had to get matched and I lack the tools to rearm a chamber... so $400 and $150 in shipping to and from the gunsmith) by the time it went out the door for $1700, And I only got less then 200 rounds through it.


that and a Norc will never cross the US boarder, even for a shooting event
 
I have both a springfield standard and a norinco 18.5 inch rifle.
For me accuracy is the same in both rifles.
The action is buttery smoth on the springfield, but that is really the only difference i have found.

If i were to do it all again i would have a norinco action, usgi gas system and trigger etc with a nice aftermarket medium barrel of some kind.
 
The attractive thing about an SAI product is that they have a lifetime warranty and they are very liberal with it. I have owned an SAI M1A since 2001. It was my first M14 type rifle. A year ago I noticed what I considered "abnormal" peening on the inside of the receiver under the rear sight area from one of the bolt lugs perhaps caused by the bolt canting a little sideways at the end of it's travel.

I called cust. svc, and explained to them what my issue was. They emailed me a fedex prepaid shipping label. I sent the stripped barrel & receiver & component TRW bolt to them with a request that they replace the receiver because of the peening I discovered. I asked them to install my USGI SAK NM medium weight barrel on the new receiver and headspace it to 1.633 with it's bolt.

Two weeks later UPS shows up with exactly what I asked them for. It's only fair to tell you that the rifle was functioning fine before I sent it in. They replaced the receiver because of the peening that I pointed out to them on a 12 year old rifle.

If you have been around the various gun boards for a few years you undoubtably have read similar experiences from others who have used the SAI warranty.
 
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