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ianfroese

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Hello, my name is Ian, and I just bought a Glock.

And I'm very excited about it. Just bought one of the GP Tactical G19's, and they are a beautiful brick of steel and plastic. It fits my hands well, and does feel smaller than my P229. I used to have a G22, but I never really got excited about it. This is my first non-Sig in a very long time, and I've got to say, it is refreshing to get back into the striker fired game. Looking forward to getting to the range to shoot it.

Anyone else have a Glock 19 and love it? Also, anyone else have the high suppressor sights? I haven't shot it yet, but from dry firing I think it will be an improvement over the normal glock sights.
 
It's more the fact that my eyes snap right to the bright yellow dot, and I was not really a fan of the trough and dot on my G22. Being high sights won't do anything for me. Unless I move to a suppressor friendly country. Which I'm not.
 
ianfroese said:
It's more the fact that my eyes snap right to the bright yellow dot, and I was not really a fan of the trough and dot on my G22. Being high sights won't do anything for me. Unless I move to a suppressor friendly country. Which I'm not.
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Ah ok, I understand now. I thought you were saying that the higher suppressor sights were the advantage. I agree the stock "box dot" sights are less than stellar.

TDC
 
I run the the factory sights with no problems. In fact, i prefer the box and dot (metal) over a 3 dot.
I have a red front and the glock box rear. I have tried all different sights arrangements, including black rear. I prefer the oem, or a 3 dot.
Sights are personal preference, nothing wrong with the stock sights. People should stop saying that oem suck.
if you suck with the oem sights you Might need to try something different, but oem certainly do not suck.
I shoot with them better than anything else. It's a personal thing, like shoes, not everybody like the same pair of boots.
It's like those folks who claim that aftermarket barrels in a Glock are more accurate than stock, bs.
 
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I run the the factory sights with no problems. In fact, i prefer the box and dot (metal) over a 3 dot.
I have a red front and the glock box rear. I have tried all different sights arrangements, including black rear. I prefer the oem, or a 3 dot.
Sights are personal preference, nothing wrong with the stock sights. People should stop saying that oem suck.
if you suck with the oem sights you Might need to try something different, but oem certainly do not suck.
I shoot with them better than anything else. It's a personal thing, like shoes, not everybody like the same pair of boots.
It's like those folks who claim that aftermarket barrels in a Glock are more accurate than stock, bs.
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Stock sights are useless in the dark, they suck. The line of the box isn't placed near the edge of the sight, which creates a "dead zone" between the front sight and the line. There are far better sights out there.

Tdc
 
The metal stock sights dont have the issues you are talking about.
And the dead zone applies for any type of sight out of alignment.

There are better sights? Yes. Do they suck. They do not. You might need more practice.
 
Avenida said:
I run the the factory sights with no problems. In fact, i prefer the box and dot (metal) over a 3 dot.
I have a red front and the glock box rear. I have tried all different sights arrangements, including black rear. I prefer the oem, or a 3 dot.
Sights are personal preference, nothing wrong with the stock sights. People should stop saying that oem suck.
if you suck with the oem sights you Might need to try something different, but oem certainly do not suck.
I shoot with them better than anything else. It's a personal thing, like shoes, not everybody like the same pair of boots.
It's like those folks who claim that aftermarket barrels in a Glock are more accurate than stock, bs.
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For anyone serious about pistol shooting, the stock sights suck, hard.

They are visually confusing at speed, useless in the dark, too wide for accuracy at any respectable distance, and made of plastic that wears easily if you do anything more than casual plinking.

SUCK. HARD.
 
Avenida said:
The metal stock sights dont have the issues you are talking about.
And the dead zone applies for any type of sight out of alignment.

There are better sights? Yes. Do they suck. They do not. You might need more practice.
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If they aren't tritium they're useless for low light/no light use. Metal or not the design is far from ideal.

I can shoot without sights just fine, so your insinuation of my ability is way off base. If your fundamentals are strong and consistent you shouldn't need sights period.

Tdc
 
I'm in the "the factory sights are garbage" camp. And I drove a factory G23 to 100m with factory sights. It can be done but they blow.

I don't even consider the plastic ones to be real sights. They're just examples of what goes in the dovetail. Keeping them on is like leaving the pictures in your wallet that it came with from Sears.
 
Please send us a video of You shooting idpa or ipsc or something with speed and movement without sights. The video should be a 1 shot video and it should show your target clean at the beginning and at the end of the scene, up close, showing your hits. I would like to see 10 to 20 yards shots without sights. Because mostly anybody I know can shoot without sight at 5-7 yards. I shoot competitively.
 
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Please send us a video of You shooting idpa or ipsc or something with speed and movement without sights. The video should be a 1 shot video and it should show your target clean at the beginning and at the end of the scene, up close, showing your hits. I would like to see 10 to 20 yards shots without sights. Because mostly anybody I know can shoot without sight at 5-7 yards. I shoot competitively.

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I'm simply stating the facts, and the fact is the stock sights on Glocks are junk. The steel version being more robust, but still offering no benefit over the vast selection of superior offerings such as TruGlo TFO's, Trijicon HD's, XS big dots, hell even straight FO sights are an improvement. If you're doing fine with the stock sights then drive on, but don't try and sell them as a solid choice.

TDC

ETA: Here's some clippings from the IDPA rule book for those interested in the very structured "defensive pistol" league :rolleyes:

6.19. No “strong-hand only” strings of fire may require the shooter to engage targets more than ten (10) yards distant.
6.20. No “weak-hand only” strings of fire may require the shooter to engage targets more than seven (7) yards distant.
6.21. No “weak-hand only” reloading shall be permitted. Exception: See Permanently Physically Disabled Shooters section.

6.11. Shooter movement of more than ten (10) yards between firing points, and more than fifteen (15) yards total movement in a string of fire, is not permitted.
6.12. If low cover or a prone position is required, it must be the last shooting position of a string of fire. 6.12.1. Stage designers should strive to design stages that leave targets visible for mobility challenged and
physically disabled shooters.
6.13. Only one (1) non-threat target may be used for every three (3) threat targets in any string of fire. Stage designers may use one non-threat for 1 to 3 threats, 2 non-threats for 4 to 6 threats and 3 non-threats for 7- 9 threats, etc.

I didn't know the ratio of scumbag to good guy was so high, and that prone shots are always the last position used when defending yourself. :rolleyes:

6.7. Seventy-five percent (75%) of all shots required in a match must be fifteen (15) yards or less. No shots longer than twenty-five (25) yards may be required in scenario stages. 35-yard shots are only allowed in standard stages and limited to 6 rounds per stage.

I agree that 15 yards is probably the most practical distance, I don't see the value in limiting the longer shots.

6.9.2. While blind stages are not allowed in IDPA, portions of a stage can have moveable non-threat
indicators to allow for a shooter to make a shoot/no shoot decision as part of the CoF. These targets must be hidden from the view of the shooter prior to reaching the shooting position where the shoot/no shoot decision is made. In order to maintain a level playing field for all shooters, the first target and the last target will not be eligible as non-threats

Here's one of my favourites, especially the last line. Again, didn't know that the first and last person you encounter in a defensive shoot will always be a scumbag. Are we doing our due diligence and informing said scumbags of these rules?? In order to maintain a level playing field they need to know when and where they may present themselves... Just saying. :rolleyes:
 
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all my guns have night sights... we shoot indoors all winter and it is dim enough to make non night sights unreliable.

trijicons all the way with most of my guns having orange hd's.... i put the yellow hd's on my new g19tb from gp tactical though, bought from daves surplus $165'ish shipped.
 
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