"I used optics on my turkey guns for a number of years and then realized how unnecessary optics are" Quoted for truth. Save yourself some time, $, and energy. I can't think of any advantage an optic brings to turkey hunting. I have passed up many birds over the years but never due to the lack of an optic sight. It's just one more thing that could go wrong or break. The target is a long neck and head, and we are shooting normally less than 40 yds with birdshot. We are not trying to hit a chipmunk at 100yds with a rifle.