de-capping tool

[New Camper]

I'm embarrassed to say that I can't remember the name of a de-capping tool that works as a sort of pry lever only at the base of the case. The last couple years of decreased quality control in reloading components, and I have a couple 357mag rounds with faulty primers. I realize the decreased safety involved as they are otherwise fully loaded rounds with a BBWC so bullet puller won't work or I'd just empty it in the conventional manner.

I might have better luck looking when I know what it's called but does anyone know who might currently have this tool in stock?

 

[yodave]

kinetic bullet puller will work on them, soak the primer with WD-40 or water and then full length size/deprime as per usual.

I souldn't tell you what the tool is called for fear of your own safety and eye sight but it is a berdan primer remover/depriming kit

 

[ted_dent]

kinetic bullet puller will work on them, soak the primer with WD-40 or water and then full length size/deprime as per usual.

I souldn't tell you what the tool is called for fear of your own safety and eye sight but it is a berdan primer remover/depriming kit

Once the bullet has been pulled you can deprime the case simply by running it into the proper size die with the decapping rod in place. The rod will pop out the unfired primer. Just ease the case into the die slowly and you won't have any problem. I have decapped literally hundreds of primed cases and never had a primer go off. In fact you can even reuse the primers.

 

[Spawn-Inc]

Once the bullet has been pulled you can deprime the case simply by running it into the proper size die with the decapping rod in place. The rod will pop out the unfired primer. Just ease the case into the die slowly and you won't have any problem. I have decapped literally hundreds of primed cases and never had a primer go off. In fact you can even reuse the primers.

Yup.

The primer won't go off unless you hit it sharply. The friction of the case going into the die will prevent you from going to fast.

 

[New Camper]

Thank you for the answer, suggestions and concern for my health: Yes, I'm aware of the potential in dealing with the matter even considering the primers are (99.99999% certain) dud. I have decapped good primers in the past but from cases that are empty.

yodave, it occurred to me that it might have been called a berdan deprimer. By the way you mentioned it, I gather they are rough on the extracted primer and therefore likely carry a degree of risk in detonation particularly with live primers?

I should have a bullet puller, but in the years I've been reloading I manage to avoid having to make them a necessity. (care in loading from the start primarily) But eventually such things as a bad primer will crop up to create necessity.

Since the components in the rounds are of little value now (old Norma brass of which some have split) I could just chuck them in the wood stove.

 

[Spawn-Inc]

Thank you for the answer, suggestions and concern for my health: Yes, I'm aware of the potential in dealing with the matter even considering the primers are (99.99999% certain) dud. I have decapped good primers in the past but from cases that are empty.

yodave, it occurred to me that it might have been called a berdan deprimer. By the way you mentioned it, I gather they are rough on the extracted primer and therefore likely carry a degree of risk in detonation particularly with live primers?

I should have a bullet puller, but in the years I've been reloading I manage to avoid having to make them a necessity. (care in loading from the start primarily) But eventually such things as a bad primer will crop up to create necessity.

Since the components in the rounds are of little value now (old Norma brass of which some have split) I could just chuck them in the wood stove.

i would be very shocked if a berdan primer removal tool set off a primer as i takes a sharp hit to set them off. but regardless of it, why not use a sizing die? you can use a 357mag die or larger to do it.

 

[ted_dent]

i would be very shocked if a berdan primer removal tool set off a primer as i takes a sharp hit to set them off. but regardless of it, why not use a sizing die? you can use a 357mag die or larger to do it.

Yes, as long as the sizing die is for a calibre larger than what you are depriving it just acts as a decapping die.

 

[yodave]

that would be great if he could somehow get the wad-cutter bullet out of the case.........but short of a kinetic bullet puller that ain't happening now is it boys............

 

[New Camper]

that would be great if he could somehow get the wad-cutter bullet out of the case.........but short of a kinetic bullet puller that ain't happening now is it boys............

Would a kinetic puller work with crimped cases? It's not a heavy crimp, but I added it only because manuals suggest using 38spec loads for 357mag and I found the velocity to be terribly slow - as in the rubber mats on the target boards were stopping bullets from penetrating and landing in the backstop. Since I found nothing in the manual relative to crimping, I started crimping partway through the box of bullets and all was well. WCs all used up now save these two, and barring competition I won't likely ever bother with anything flatter nosed than SWC.

 

[yodave]

it will take a bit but yeah they will pop out after a couple of good blows

 

[Spawn-Inc]

that would be great if he could somehow get the wad-cutter bullet out of the case.........but short of a kinetic bullet puller that ain't happening now is it boys............

dammit... way to make me look a fool for not reading the post fully!

if it's only a couple of rounds, i wouldn't buy the berdan tool just for that. i would likely just cut case case in half and save the lead for re casting.

 

[yodave]

..............when the shoe fits.............stand proud and wave................

 

[New Camper]

dammit... way to make me look a fool for not reading the post fully!

if it's only a couple of rounds, i wouldn't buy the berdan tool just for that. i would likely just cut case case in half and save the lead for re casting.

We all have our moments... while I don't cast at this time I certainly do save every bit of lead I can.

Thank you yodave. BTW, does your name have any relation with the "yodave" of firearm related machining? trigger kits etc? I put one of these trigger kits in my CZ 452 THV, and while it was not a terrible trigger to start with, the kit made it superb.

 

[yodave]

guilty..............that be me............

glad your results were improving and impressive, how are the groups now?

 

[New Camper]

guilty..............that be me............

glad your results were improving and impressive, how are the groups now?

The rifle has always been a good shooter with SK Magazine ammunition. The trigger was superior to every domestic rifle I have, but with the creep eliminated, and weight quite light the only excuse I have for messing a shot is my own shortcoming. I don't know if CZ spent more with the triggers of this model than others? Anyway, I have some equally "inexpensive" RWS rounds to try, but I need to get some match rounds through it. Best five shot group I've done with the SK ammunition is .075" at 25m, but I usually fail it with around 1/4". I will get better with time and measure up to the equipment. It'd be nice to have a "magic" trigger kit for the concrete triggers in Remington Speedmaster or 760.

EDIT: Got a lead on a few kinetic pullers, so I may find my way to the no doubt crowded (tomorrow) SFRC.

 

[sunray]

A kinetic puller works on any cartridge. They work best if you whack it on something very hard like a rock. Wood or concrete do not work as well. Carpeted floors don't work at all.
Anyway, your original question is about Berdan decapping tools. RCBS makes the lever one. It won't pry out a bullet.

 

[bigedp51]

New Camper

Buy a Universal Depriming and Decapping Die, the inside of these dies are not restricted like a standard resizing die. What I'm getting at is "IF" the primer was to go off using the Universal Depriming and Decapping Die the pressure has ample room to vent out the bottom of the die. This way the only damage that will happen if the primer goes off is washing the brown fecal debri from your underwear.

And a question for the rest of you reading this posting.

Who of you would like to hit a certain unnamed individual over the head with his rock he uses with his kinetic bullet puller.

I pound mine on the concrete basement floor my reloading bench rests on along with the entire house above me. I could even use my basement block walls...........because they are rock solid.
I have to go now my head hurts.........and I'm going to look for a big rock.

 

[New Camper]

Okay, I purchased a Hornady kinetic puller a few hours ago and with a vigorous beating on a leftover slab of American Beech, I extracted the WC, powder and popped the primers out in my 44 die. It seemed rather abusive even on the strong plastics these things are made of that hitting on a concrete or stone surface, would increase wear for the few less swings gained. I tossed the two recalcitrant primers into the wood stove and was surprised to hear "snap ... snap" So the compound was present, so the anvil/cup must have been defective.

 

[Rory McCanuck]

Who of you would like to hit a certain unnamed individual over the head with his rock he uses with his kinetic bullet puller.

Funny, I have no problem using the end grain of a 2x4 on my bench.
But maybe I'm gifted that way?

Buy a kinetic puller, then you'll have it. They're only $20.
A berdan puller is a good bit more, and what are the chances you'll use it again?

EDIT: Hmm, not sure how I missed the post above?
For the future, I find the puller works better with a sharp rap rather than a a power stroke like you're driving spikes. Still takes a good hit, but more speed from your wrist, as opposed to power from your arm.

 

[Spawn-Inc]

Funny, I have no problem using the end grain of a 2x4 on my bench.
But maybe I'm gifted that way?

that's how i get the best results with my puller. i need to find a scrap 4x4 or 6x6 and use the cut end. i've done some rounds in one good hit that way.