Can I accompany someone while they're hunting?

smally21 said:
No..the amount of fisherman (read licenses) required in the boat are equal to the amount of lines in the water. (don't bother I know there are cases where 2 lines are allowed).

No line in the water = she isn't fishing. One can't fish without a rod, but apparently one can hunt without a gun.
I have twelve rods in my boat..but Im not charged with too many lines because I have only one in the lake..similarly my wife isn't charged for coming along because she doesn't have one in her hand..but in theory a CO could argue she certainly has the "means" to fish, even if she wasn't holding one.

Perhaps the 2 pursuits aren't similar enough to make the comparison.
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YES, indeed! One can be helping the hunter with a lic, in some way during the hunt, it's a no no no no, so don't do it! Just don't be cheap and buy the lic, wtf! And go along, see what it's all about, have fun in the bush, enjoy the time away from home. Perhaps get some meat for the freezer, if luck permits. Remember, you must qualify to buy the lic in the first place, age 12 and up, and have passed the Hunter Safety Coarse card. Clear as mud, ya say!:p
You don't need a PAL, if you wish to carry a rifle, as long as your hunting partner has one.
 
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Waterfowler said:
In Ontario as long as you are just an observer and not directly involved in the hunt you are 100% fine.
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So that basically means it's up to the discretion of the game warden whether he wants to charge you or not, because when I read this:

“hunting” includes,
(a) lying in wait for, searching for, being on the trail of, pursuing, chasing or shooting at wildlife, whether or not the wildlife is killed, injured, captured or harassed, or
(b) capturing or harassing wildlife,
except that “hunting” does not include,
(c) trapping, or
(d) lying in wait for, searching for, being on the trail of or pursuing wildlife for a purpose other than attempting to kill, injure, capture or harass it, unless the wildlife is killed, injured, captured or harassed as a result,

....that means if I'm following a friend down a deer trail who's following a track and he shoots a deer, I can be charged.
 
bearkilr said:
So that basically means it's up to the discretion of the game warden whether he wants to charge you or not, because when I read this:

“hunting” includes,
(a) lying in wait for, searching for, being on the trail of, pursuing, chasing or shooting at wildlife, whether or not the wildlife is killed, injured, captured or harassed, or
(b) capturing or harassing wildlife,
except that “hunting” does not include,
(c) trapping, or
(d) lying in wait for, searching for, being on the trail of or pursuing wildlife for a purpose other than attempting to kill, injure, capture or harass it, unless the wildlife is killed, injured, captured or harassed as a result,

....that means if I'm following a friend down a deer trail who's following a track and he shoots a deer, I can be charged.
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That is called spot and stalk hunting, a common and fun way to hunt, and it is indeed hunting.
 
Its the same deal as taking your 8 year old son or daughter out hunting with you. They do not have to be 12 or have taken the hunting apprenticeship course but you cannot let them take the shot, drive the bush for you, make calls etc. They should be glued to your side (for safety reasons also) so that there can be no confusion as to whether they are hunting or not.
On a related note when I am target shooting on crown land I always keep my small game license up to date just in case a CO is in a bad mood and wants to nail me for hunting.
 
Pyd said:
That is called spot and stalk hunting, a common and fun way to hunt, and it is indeed hunting.
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Don't be a smart ass, I know what it is. My point was that if I'm just following without a gun or license, I'm still hunting as per the regulations that Waterfowler posted.

But I'm sure you knew that, however felt like adding childish sarcasm anyhow.
 
bearkilr said:
So that basically means it's up to the discretion of the game warden whether he wants to charge you or not, because when I read this:

“hunting” includes,
(a) lying in wait for, searching for, being on the trail of, pursuing, chasing or shooting at wildlife, whether or not the wildlife is killed, injured, captured or harassed, or
(b) capturing or harassing wildlife,
except that “hunting” does not include,
(c) trapping, or
(d) lying in wait for, searching for, being on the trail of or pursuing wildlife for a purpose other than attempting to kill, injure, capture or harass it, unless the wildlife is killed, injured, captured or harassed as a result,

....that means if I'm following a friend down a deer trail who's following a track and he shoots a deer, I can be charged.
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This is called "spot and stalk" hunting bearkilr, many people hunt this way and is viewed by the CO's as hunting.
 
superted said:
Best read your respective provincial hunting regs VERY CAREFULLY! A CO could and likely WOULD deem that your companion that was just "enjoying the great outdoors" whilst you were hunting - was actually hunting without a licence and had "ditched" his gun on seeing the CO! AND BOTHof you would be trying to prove your INNOCENCE in court after having your guns, binocs, cameras and vehicle(s) seized on the spot!!! Like Robin Hood, anyone messing with "the Queen's" venison face the most SWIFT and SEVERE penalties!!!!
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Pls stop your bs. Even if you received a citation, it would be the crowns responsibility to prove hat you were hunting or participating not the other way around.
 
bearkilr said:
Don't be a smart ass, I know what it is. My point was that if I'm just following without a gun or license, I'm still hunting as per the regulations that Waterfowler posted.

But I'm sure you knew that, however felt like adding childish sarcasm anyhow.
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A smart ass? I answered your question. If that is how you act, there probably isn't anyone who would let you walk behind them anyways. Likely why you didnt know the answer.
Was I supposed to pat you on the back when I answered you? There was nothing smart ass, or childish in my statement, just a fact.
 
Pyd said:
A smart ass? I answered your question. If that is how you act, there probably isn't anyone who would let you walk behind them anyways. Likely why you didnt know the answer.
Was I supposed to pat you on the back when I answered you? There was nothing smart ass, or childish in my statement, just a fact.
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I'm unarmed without a license following someone with a rifle and license down a deer trail, he shoots a deer and you call what I'm doing spot and stalk? OK.
 
bearkilr said:
I'm unarmed without a license following someone with a rifle and license down a deer trail, he shoots a deer and you call what I'm doing spot and stalk? OK.
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Relax man hes not going to fine you for hunting, hes going to let you off with a warning this time. Dont make it any worse than it is.
 
I personally don't care what you do, or where you do it.
I don't hunt with guns, not Something I would need help with anyways. I do know that I if I did decide to push an animal and had 100 of my closest friends just take a leisurely walk through the bush towards me and none of them have a licence, or a gun, I would have some expensive explaining to do. I guess that's why I hunt alone. On quiet days I have let the thought of calling the wife and kids and ask them to take a walk from a location, and make sure they did not have a gun.. But I never have, I understand the law. Do I agree with it? Doesn't matter.
Not trying to bust your balls as you may think, just sharing what I have learned in my travels.
As far as Ontario being horrible, I am actually American. I have a carry permit in Michigan and Florida. I personally like Ontario.
Do what you want man, like I said I could not care less. But I do know the laws. Perhaps you should too.
Whatever you do, do it safe and best of luck in your endeavors.
 
Pyd said:
I personally don't care what you do, or where you do it.
I don't hunt with guns, not Something I would need help with anyways. I do know that I if I did decide to push an animal and had 100 of my closest friends just take a leisurely walk through the bush towards me and none of them have a licence, or a gun, I would have some expensive explaining to do. I guess that's why I hunt alone. On quiet days I have let the thought of calling the wife and kids and ask them to take a walk from a location, and make sure they did not have a gun.. But I never have, I understand the law. Do I agree with it? Doesn't matter.
Not trying to bust your balls as you may think, just sharing what I have learned in my travels.
As far as Ontario being horrible, I am actually American. I have a carry permit in Michigan and Florida. I personally like Ontario.
Do what you want man, like I said I could not care less. But I do know the laws. Perhaps you should too.
Whatever you do, do it safe and best of luck in your endeavors.
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Nowhere did I mention they would be "pushing bush" or aiding in the taking of an animal, they're merely accompanying a hunter. But I always appreciate sanctimonious rebuttals, thank you.
 
yomomma said:
How many of you speed and that's against the law too!
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I do! Almost every time I am behind the wheel.
But I hunt for a living, a charge under the fish and wildlife act could sink my ship. Very different than a speeding ticket.
For what it is worth, I roll through most stop signs too. Big fines, but not so big they will stop my company from existing.
I hunt for a living. I wake up and scratch my balls like every other man. But after that I go to my vault and pick out my "gun of the day", and off we go.
Speeding tickets I can live with, but violations of fish and wildlife act, I take serious. I understand the laws and appreciate them. I don't agree with all of them, but I exist within them.
I live in a big home that is mine, drive nice cars and it all balances on the fact I understand and follow game laws.
If I drove for a living, I would lock my guns up in a safe and study the highway traffic laws, but I don't.
Different strokes for different folks. I work for me, and I use a gun to feed my family, the laws in this, I do understand.
 
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