No it won't . At that distance accuracy is more important then a few more foot pounds of energy. Almost every distance, really. - dan
Ok, same topic but a slight highjack: Right now I'm shooting 140 partitions with 38 grains of Varget. The book speed is 2610 fps (no chrony here), and I'm wondering what you guys thought about the speed? The load is the most accurate I've found to date which is important to me, but wondering if 200 fps is going to make a difference out to 250 yards in killing power?
Ditch the nickel cases and I bet you will get less flyers. Nickel cases look good but they suck.
I have never used Berger bullets, but 45 grains of 4350 is a light load with 140 grain bullets of other brands.
46 grains of 4350 only got an average of 2613 fps with a flat base 140 grain Speer bullet.
48 grains gave just over 2800 with a 140 grain semi boat tail.
With 145 grain Grans Slam bullets, 49 grains of 4350 gave just under 2800 fps.
With 140 grain Nosler Ballistic Tip, 49 grains of 4350 averaged 2824.
However, there are other powders that work that work well in a 7-08. Forty grains of 3031 gave 140 grain Nosler BT 2780 fps. Shootable, but not spectacular.
I think H414 might be the best of the powders I have, as it is with the 243.
Hogdon on line show max load of 47 grains of H414 with a 130 grain bullet as doing 2925 fps.
For me, that load, 47 of H414, gave 2850, which is pretty close and showed no sign, whatsoever of excess pressure, thus another half grain or so will likely bring it up to what Hodgdon's state it will go and will be a very respectable load.
One problem with IMR4350 is that the loads of 49 grains I was using with 140 grain bullets, filled the case to the top of the neck, thus creating a huge compression to seat them. H414 will give the same velocity with the powder only coming to the bottom of the neck.
The rifle being tested is a new Tikka. I can detect no difference in accuracy, regardless what powder I use or how much!
I seat the bullets deep enough to work through the magazine and so the bolt will close. The Nosler Ballistic Tip had to be seated very deep, creating a great deal of compression with 4350, but again, I could not determine any difference in accuracy.
I have been making 1 MOA groups, or very close to it, with regularity.
Here is one five shot group with the Speer 130 grain bullets, which measures about .82 inches.
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And that Combo is with H4350?
How far are you set off your lands usually?

Here is a load from reloadersnest I am going to try.
BulletNosler Ballistic Tip
BulletWeight140 grs
PowderHodgdon H4350
PowderWeight49 grs
PrimerFederal 210 Match
Brass MakeWinchester
Barrel Length22 (inches)
C.O.L2.82 (inches)
Velocity2844 fps
Group0.79 (inches by 3 shot at 100 yds)
Going to start arojnd 45 gr.
Here is a load from reloadersnest I am going to try.
BulletNosler Ballistic Tip
BulletWeight140 grs
PowderHodgdon H4350
PowderWeight49 grs
PrimerFederal 210 Match
Brass MakeWinchester
Barrel Length22 (inches)
C.O.L2.82 (inches)
Velocity2844 fps
Group0.79 (inches by 3 shot at 100 yds)
Going to start arojnd 45 gr.
What gun are you going to use?
I have never used Berger bullets, but 45 grains of 4350 is a light load with 140 grain bullets of other brands.
46 grains of 4350 only got an average of 2613 fps with a flat base 140 grain Speer bullet.
48 grains gave just over 2800 with a 140 grain semi boat tail.
With 145 grain Grans Slam bullets, 49 grains of 4350 gave just under 2800 fps.
With 140 grain Nosler Ballistic Tip, 49 grains of 4350 averaged 2824.
However, there are other powders that work that work well in a 7-08. Forty grains of 3031 gave 140 grain Nosler BT 2780 fps. Shootable, but not spectacular.
I think H414 might be the best of the powders I have, as it is with the 243.
Hogdon on line show max load of 47 grains of H414 with a 130 grain bullet as doing 2925 fps.
For me, that load, 47 of H414, gave 2850, which is pretty close and showed no sign, whatsoever of excess pressure, thus another half grain or so will likely bring it up to what Hodgdon's state it will go and will be a very respectable load.
One problem with IMR4350 is that the loads of 49 grains I was using with 140 grain bullets, filled the case to the top of the neck, thus creating a huge compression to seat them. H414 will give the same velocity with the powder only coming to the bottom of the neck.
The rifle being tested is a new Tikka. I can detect no difference in accuracy, regardless what powder I use or how much!
I seat the bullets deep enough to work through the magazine and so the bolt will close. The Nosler Ballistic Tip had to be seated very deep, creating a great deal of compression with 4350, but again, I could not determine any difference in accuracy.
I have been making 1 MOA groups, or very close to it, with regularity.
Here is one five shot group with the Speer 130 grain bullets, which measures about .82 inches.
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Ditch the nickel cases and I bet you will get less flyers. Nickel cases look good but they suck.
s RJHMM ! you thing ? that Nickel cases effect accuracy do you ? Please explain - i would really like to know how !s RJ
Anyone try Hod. CFE-223?..
I have used CFE-223 with 120 NBT's and 139 SST's... good speed and good accuracy... I have a couple winner loads.
Also like 45.0 gr Varget with 120 NBT's (crazy accurate outta my M77 compact) and 49.5 grains H4350 with 139 SST/IB.
Is cfe223 as temp stable as the hod extreme?



























