Nosler ballistic tip?

Never liked "Ballistic tips" for any reasonable sized game hunting, I was soured by a "ballistic Silver tip" fired from a 7-08 at a Sambar stag, I spend 4 hours that evening an 6 hours the next day looking for the bloody thing... my cuzin shot it, an I said keep that scit for the Roos an foxes, don't ever bring em on a hunt wit me again.

So I steer eeeeryone off em.

I would much, much prefer a SP C&C same weight projectile.


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My first moose i shot was in the back of the head with 180 gr BT
No exit wound but it just dropped it dead

I stuck 55gr BT's through my 223 and they vapourised rabbits head and turn foxes inside out
I just love those green tips for total destructive pleasure
Crows were entertaining too
 
jacket separtation....lack of penetration...you should not be able to recover whats left in the form of jacket and core flecks of a 180 bt and failure to pass thru on 80 pound deer,,,,
 
I use the 150 gr Ballistic Tip in 7mm Rem Mag...Loaded up to 3200fps...Kills smaller big game instantly with hydrostatic shock and larger big game very fast with huge blood loss...I find they hold together a bit better then Speer boat tails and Sierra gamekings loaded to equal velocity...The thing I like best about Nosler Ballistic Tips is the near benchrest accuracy you can get outta them and zero nose deformation cause of the polycarbonate tip on the end...The colored tips are kinda cool too...Overall an excellent bullet design if you are into hydrostatic shock, blood and gore.
 
338 06 200 bt at 75 yrds on a black bear. shot was tight behind the shoulder but too high. severed the spine and exited. on butchering there was a few flakes of jacket material inside the rest of the bullet exited. entrance and exit holes were small but the hole at the spine was about 4 inches in diameter. no need to track.
 
Culled a whack of deer using 95gr ballistic tips in a .243. No tracking needed. I did shift my POI a bit to avoid bony shoulders and such just to be sure but that wasn't a big deal.
Some fond memories of pulling the trigger and seeing hooves in the scope! :) Match the bullet to the job and you will be fine.
 
Wow i have complete opposite hate on them .

I find they don't expend . I shot a bear and couldn't find it till it was too late . Pin hole in and out , same with a deer . It was shot three times before it figured out it was shot and staggered ran until it died .

Now i dont use em and tell every one that they are junk .
 
I've been reloading/hunting with them since 1982, and "never" had a problem. Ballistic tips kill, and then some..............very large exit wounds.
 
tylerjwitty said:
Wow i have complete opposite hate on them .

I find they don't expend . I shot a bear and couldn't find it till it was too late . Pin hole in and out , same with a deer . It was shot three times before it figured out it was shot and staggered ran until it died .

Now i dont use em and tell every one that they are junk .
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I've got some questions about the bear. Am I correct that the bear was only found after it was spoiled? Was it still skinned and gutted and the wound channel between the pin-pricks observed? Its quite possible that the bullet blew up to the point that only the solid base was left to exit which would explain the two small wounds. That's very normal with a Ballistic-tip, but not expanding at all in practically unheard-of. What was between the two holes? I don't blame you if you weren't up to your elbows in a rotten bear; just wondering what you know and what you've surmised.

With the deer taking 3 hits, who knows. I've flattened animals, had them run, and occasionally shot groups on them when they didn't run but wouldn't do the decent thing and fall over. I don't know what goes through an animals head (Unless its a bullet) but speculate that an animal that is hard hit has a given amount of time (or oxygen) left and may chose to use it fleeing or might use it to fight its unseen enemy. If its lungs are gone and it elects the stay on its feet approach further hits through the chest don't seem to speed things up much on those dead on their feet animals.
 
tar21 said:
i think so speaking from experience 150 grain nosler bt 308 federal premium as long as you do your part 307 pounds heart shot went 7-10 yards



here's the vid

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejcG75W3PCg&list=UUh5WejmO711u78sKTLTriJg
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Ahhh it looks like he is having a nap... a dirt nap that is !
MD, you best return them(if you can) and find something you will be more confidant in as there is no second chance when you break that sear and the bullet is on its way.
Barnes X comes to mind...
Tight Groups,
Rob
 
Dogleg said:
I've got some questions about the bear. Am I correct that the bear was only found after it was spoiled? Was it still skinned and gutted and the wound channel between the pin-pricks observed? Its quite possible that the bullet blew up to the point that only the solid base was left to exit which would explain the two small wounds. That's very normal with a Ballistic-tip, but not expanding at all in practically unheard-of. What was between the two holes? I don't blame you if you weren't up to your elbows in a rotten bear; just wondering what you know and what you've surmised.

With the deer taking 3 hits, who knows. I've flattened animals, had them run, and occasionally shot groups on them when they didn't run but wouldn't do the decent thing and fall over. I don't know what goes through an animals head (Unless its a bullet) but speculate that an animal that is hard hit has a given amount of time (or oxygen) left and may chose to use it fleeing or might use it to fight its unseen enemy. If its lungs are gone and it elects the stay on its feet approach further hits through the chest don't seem to speed things up much on those dead on their feet animals.
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It was plus 30 for a few days so it spoiled very quick . Its biggest issue that not a drop could be found to follow, and ive tracked some pretty sparce blood trails .

I perfer my bears and deer to be a bang flop .

I dont really have a solid reason why i dont like them .

People wouldnt believe me if i told them what bullet i use on deer and bear
 
I have used them - 120gr 7mm (not on game yet), 150gr .308" and 180gr .308" and I find that they work well. They are generally quite accurate and kill game dead. The 180gr BT had a reputation for being "soft", but they were changed at some point in the 1990's. I still have some of the old style, as well as the new style. An Albertan fellow I knew used them in a .270 and his wife in a .308 and they each shot a couple of deer every year and they were both very happy with the results. He was an avid rifleman and a member of the board of the Spruce Grove Gun Club, so he wasn't exactly a newb.
 
tylerjwitty said:
It was plus 30 for a few days so it spoiled very quick . Its biggest issue that not a drop could be found to follow, and ive tracked some pretty sparce blood trails .

I perfer my bears and deer to be a bang flop .

I dont really have a solid reason why i dont like them .

People wouldnt believe me if i told them what bullet i use on deer and bear
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I am unaware of any bullet that is more likely to produce the "bang flop" than Ballistic Tips. My experience with them has been that they are too fragile for my taste. The extreme expansion and resulting meat damage (if you hit any meat) is not what I want from a bullet, but they are very likely to produce a "sudden stop" compared to tougher bullets like the Partition, even when shot cleanly into the chest cavity. Chest shots hardly ever produce bang flops, but Ballistic Tips do fairly often even with that placement.

Obviously my experience with them (and that of several others here) differs from yours. I have used them in .22-250, .243, .270, and .300WM on various sizes of game. They always expand violently, and if rapid expansion is the goal, I always recommend them as a good place to start. I have also found them to be a consistently accurate bullet. I don't understand your problems with them.

So what bullet IS your choice?
 
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