Question about "status" hunters?

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First off, this is simply a question, please no bashing so it gets shut down.

Here goes, a local farmer here recently was woken up at around 1am to gunfire right beside his house on his acreage. He gets up, hears a quad start and runs out onto his lawn thinking someone is stealing his quad, but instead finds 8 "status" hunters trying to gut a bull moose. Did I mention literally next to his house? Anyways he seemed pretty flustered by the whole situation and told them bluntly to F*** off and don't show their faces around his property again. He reports most of them were intoxicated as well. He didn't report anything, as he feels nothing will get done due to politics, maybe he feels like they will try to get revenge, who knows. The guy who shot the moose is well known locally for doing this sort of thing and is now claiming he's up to 4 moose and 8 deer.

My question to someone who may know, are CO's just going to turn the blind eye to this or can something actually be done? Can "status" hunters shoot after dark like that? Obviously they can't hunt while intoxicated either but its too late to do much about that. What can be done about this?
 
They can't hunt after dark while drunk on private property as far as I know.

The first and last one is a good way to get ones self killed I would think.

Well so is the second now that I think about it.
 
They can hunt in the dark, but need permission on private land. All other rules still apply to them in regards to shooting too close to a residence.
 
It so ok 'cause of the use of traditional rifle, traditional quads, traditional spot lights, and traditional booze, on traditional roads, near traditional acreages.

At least it wasn't during the special ISIS muslim hunting season for traditional goats......that would have been a serious conflict.

couldn't help it - this is BS and everyone knows it.
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Bonemaker said:
It so ok 'cause of the use of traditional rifle, traditional quads, traditional spot lights, and traditional booze, on traditional roads, near traditional acreages.

At least it wasn't during the special ISIS muslim hunting season for traditional goats......that would have been a serious conflict.

couldn't help it - this is BS and everyone knows it.
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agreed.
 
chisholm said:
First off, this is simply a question, please no bashing so it gets shut down.

Here goes, a local farmer here recently was woken up at around 1am to gunfire right beside his house on his acreage. He gets up, hears a quad start and runs out onto his lawn thinking someone is stealing his quad, but instead finds 8 "status" hunters trying to gut a bull moose. Did I mention literally next to his house? Anyways he seemed pretty flustered by the whole situation and told them bluntly to F*** off and don't show their faces around his property again. He reports most of them were intoxicated as well. He didn't report anything, as he feels nothing will get done due to politics, maybe he feels like they will try to get revenge, who knows. The guy who shot the moose is well known locally for doing this sort of thing and is now claiming he's up to 4 moose and 8 deer.

My question to someone who may know, are CO's just going to turn the blind eye to this or can something actually be done? Can "status" hunters shoot after dark like that? Obviously they can't hunt while intoxicated either but its too late to do much about that. What can be done about this?
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CO's won't turn a blind eye to it, though the courts may. They're not allowed to hunt while intoxicated nor on private land without permission. They're also not allowed to hunt at night if there's a safety concern, which there obviously was here as you claim it was close to his house.

It was actually illegal for them to hunt at night up until about a decade ago due to a Supreme Court decision allowing a certain BC band to hunt at night. Rather than wasting taxpayer money on legal fees when first nations in other provinces challenged it, the various provincial governments gave them a carte blanche.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/b-c-first-nation-can-hunt-at-night-supreme-court-1.618478

Bottom line; if he doesn't report it, he can be guaranteed nothing is done. And tell him to get one of these signs:

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Oh FFS. This crap again? The OP asked a question with an obvious answer. Then the race-baiting bigots come out of the wood work.

Can we not dole out some infractions when this foolishness comes up? Maybe put a damper on this stupidity.
 
BigUglyMan said:
Oh FFS. This crap again? The OP asked a question with an obvious answer. Then the race-baiting bigots come out of the wood work.

Can we not dole out some infractions when this foolishness comes up? Maybe put a damper on this stupidity.
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If you're referring to my post, among others, there's nothing racist about it. I was simply pointing out the facts of why and when it's legal. For those who aren't a lawyer, LEO or have had previous dealings in the matter, it's actually not common knowledge at all.

And who's "we"? I don't see your name in blue.
 
Discharging a rifle at night would be a Criminal code offense, which applies to one and all, last time I checked. Should have been reported immediately.

Grizz
 
Grizzly Adams said:
Discharging a rifle at night would be a Criminal code offense, which applies to one and all, last time I checked. Should have been reported immediately.

Grizz
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not always we can shoot at night with rim fire to hunt coon with lic hounds in Ontario .we hunt coon all fall at night with hounds and spot lights .Dutch
 
This is not hunting. It is dangerous use of a firearm, and criminal trespass. These are Criminal Code offences, and have no free passes available.

The RCMP should have been called on 911 to advise armed trespassers on the property and shots fired. No more, no less.

This story has nothing to do with hunting or treaty rights.
 
I wish this wasn't the case but unfortunately I have first hand knowledge to the contrary.

I thought I was doing the right thing once by calling in a "problem" hunter when I was leaving an area I was in and as I was driving out of the area noticed a nice doe minding her own business in a small few acre corner or stubble, privately owned just off of a speed curve.I passed the deer and once at the end of the field she was in, in goes a Pontiac 6000 I believe balls to the wall trying to get close as fast as he can , jumps out and gets ready to shoot, fellow also had no legal colors on, but the doe was not in a clear view of the shooter I guess and he didn't pull the trigger.So, being my stupid self who wants to get his ass kicked waited on the edge of the field to say a little something.I didn't say you can shoot there or why you chasing the deer with the car,just asked where his blaze oragne was, he said he didn't need it.I'm like okay then.

I call a CO when home , he asks me the obvious 5 w's but after finding out he is native he just tells me, well there isn't much that can be done, best thing is to wish for him to hit a rock in the field with his car.

After that I just worry about me and what I am doing.

bearkilr said:
CO's won't turn a blind eye to it, though the courts may. They're not allowed to hunt while intoxicated nor on private land without permission. They're also not allowed to hunt at night if there's a safety concern, which there obviously was here as you claim it was close to his house.

It was actually illegal for them to hunt at night up until about a decade ago due to a Supreme Court decision allowing a certain BC band to hunt at night. Rather than wasting taxpayer money on legal fees when first nations in other provinces challenged it, the various provincial governments gave them a carte blanche.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/b-c-first-nation-can-hunt-at-night-supreme-court-1.618478

Bottom line; if he doesn't report it, he can be guaranteed nothing is done. And tell him to get one of these signs:

$(KGrHqUOKisE5fIiSTz9BOe76Q3m+g~~60_35.JPG
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BigUglyMan said:
Oh FFS. This crap again? The OP asked a question with an obvious answer. Then the race-baiting bigots come out of the wood work.

Can we not dole out some infractions when this foolishness comes up? Maybe put a damper on this stupidity.
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Yep this crap again, but on the bright side we get to see the bigots out themselves....
 
bearkilr said:
If you're referring to my post, among others, there's nothing racist about it. I was simply pointing out the facts of why and when it's legal. For those who aren't a lawyer, LEO or have had previous dealings in the matter, it's actually not common knowledge at all.

And who's "we"? I don't see your name in blue.
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It was bonemaker's post that's offensive and ignorant

and no mater who it is they shouldn't be hunting outside your door in the middle of the night
 
Thanks for the honest answers about the hunting at night guys, I had no clue. Its sure ruffled a few feathers in the area, especially when him and his wife bark back "There's nothing you can do about it" I'm assuming they are right. Cops should have been called immediately, it would be hard to prove anything now.
 
Silverado said:
This is not hunting. It is dangerous use of a firearm, and criminal trespass. These are Criminal Code offences, and have no free passes available.

The RCMP should have been called on 911 to advise armed trespassers on the property and shots fired. No more, no less.

This story has nothing to do with hunting or treaty rights.
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.. and this is the bottom line! Nicely said Silverado!
 
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