Dang it ... You just had to post this! I was perfectly happy until I read your post and now I'm wondering .... LOL. I have a SBE II with both the regular barrel and a rifled slug barrel. (Getting 6 inch groups with rifled slug barrel at 200 yards) It has worked very well although I have noticed that with certain brands of light target loads sometimes it does jam. I have fondled the A400 but found it a bit bulky which is why I chose the SBEII. I know the Beretta is gas driven and has less recoil but the Benelli Inertia is easier to keep clean and works no matter how dirty it gets) but the only time my shoulder objects to recoil is after target practice with a dozen 3.5 Turkey loads. However after stubble jumpers comments I may need to check out the SX-3 .... Sigh
Are the Benelli/Beretta`s worth it?
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Dang it ... You just had to post this! I was perfectly happy until I read your post and now I'm wondering .... LOL. I have a SBE II with both the regular barrel and a rifled slug barrel. (Getting 6 inch groups with rifled slug barrel at 200 yards) It has worked very well although I have noticed that with certain brands of light target loads sometimes it does jam. I have fondled the A400 but found it a bit bulky which is why I chose the SBEII. I know the Beretta is gas driven and has less recoil but the Benelli Inertia is easier to keep clean and works no matter how dirty it gets) but the only time my shoulder objects to recoil is after target practice with a dozen 3.5 Turkey loads. However after stubble jumpers comments I may need to check out the SX-3 .... Sigh
I own both the a400 and sb2. I also have a browning 10 gold lite. I can tell you the Italian guns fit and finish is way better the gun is just built better and they always work. The browning not so much. This year we hunted around 25 to 30 times with thousand of rounds and the sbe2 and a400 always worked in every weather condition. The browning is just not up to the same standard and it was still $1800 for a gun that jammed every 20 rounds.
We have just packed up for the season and I did a complete takedown of all our shotguns. When you have them all apart at one time you can really see the quality difference. If benelli or beretta ever make a 10 I'll be fist in line.
And if you decide to ever sell your a400 and sbe2 they will always be worth something.
We have just packed up for the season and I did a complete takedown of all our shotguns. When you have them all apart at one time you can really see the quality difference. If benelli or beretta ever make a 10 I'll be fist in line.
And if you decide to ever sell your a400 and sbe2 they will always be worth something.
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I just returned from a week of waterfowl hunting in Saskatchewan. We had snow, rain, and cold weather, and not a single malfunction with either of the SX-3s. We started with clean guns, and I cleaned them again when I returned home. The same two guns have also ran hundreds or rounds of light target loads per day, at the local range, as my loaners, without a single malfunction. They are well built reliable guns, for a very reasonable price.
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My Beretta 400 is a dream-The blue receiver is a nightmare-lol, but I always found it in the rack at the skeet club until the blue ones started to outnumber the superposed or citori's. Buy a Beretta and you will never lose money when it comes to resale- Just check how many used beretta's are for sale vs. browning etc. You will find a lot of beretta 391's for sale around $1,000.00 and they are very reliable and usually come with chokes etc. Try for a 30 in or more barrel for sporting clays- the 28 is good in the field. - The super Vincci is overpriced for the casual shooter but is a beauty!
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If you are sitting in a blind shooting 3"ers, weight is your friend. If you take that same gun to the pheasant field, you will probably not be happy. Semi auto gas guns have less felt recoil than the same weight pump. The kick off system on the Extreme is very nice because it's in front of your face as opposed to on your shoulder so your cheek will be happier. The most important thing in ANY shogun is fit. Chances are that one brand will fit you better than another, and if you can find that gun, you won't have to pay extra to MAKE it fit. Get yourself to a shotgun range and ask questions. We are mostly nice guys, and will probably let you shoot our guns. Good luck...C.
Sorry, now I'll answer your question! YES, IMO, the B guns are worth it. Don't be afraid to buy used, they hold up well...C.
Sorry, now I'll answer your question! YES, IMO, the B guns are worth it. Don't be afraid to buy used, they hold up well...C.
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When i was thinking about buying a benelli what stopped me was how expensive the accesories were..... When i played with one they felt great tho, I wish I had the money to spend on it.
I have a Benelli M4 the best semi shot I have ever seen, currently I trying an experiment to see how many rounds I can fire with out cleaning I am around 1500 now, without a single misfire or failure to load, a buddy of mine has a Winchester SX3 made it to around 600 and then started to experience load fails, Put a plug in it for goose hunting earlier this fall, worked assume got three Canadian geese. Most of the shot is the cheap $60.00 dollars for 250 target shot for shooting clays, but I think now that it is getting cold and a lack of maintance the Benelli will stop it's flawless operation soon, but who knows, next weekend we are going out again, let you know.
I prefer gas whatever gun you buy....I have an A5, a Maxus and an 11-87. Sold my beretta as I felt the safety is too easy to disengage when it's on a sling and throwing out dekes. Hands down the softest best shooting duck goose gun I have is the 11-87 just stay on top of the o-ring and it's very reliable. I have shot hundreds of geese and ducks with only one jam...Silversteel...usually stick with blackcloud.....
So I guess it depends...lol
So I guess it depends...lol
Sorry to hear that about your 10 ga mine or the other 15 10's who hunt around me don't skip a beat,i got a mossy 935 that cost me 550 that i took out one day and my buddy had an extrema we both went shot for shot an bird for bird.Big price differance for likewise performance if i was goin to go back to a 12 i think it would be the winchester sx3 best bang for the price but when it comes to geese an ducks when my 10 wears out im gettin another one.4440 i think you got ripped off on that 10 guage cause i paid 1450 new 5 years ago and my buddies just got 3 for around 1550 to 1600 last season.
I have had an SX-3 go 1000 rounds before being cleaned with no failures at all, but since the season was over, and I didn't want it to sit dirty all winter, I cleaned it. Another club member ran his Maxus over 2000 rounds without issue, before he started feeling guilty, and cleaned it.
I have never fired a SX3. However, I have LOTS of rounds down range using the half dozen or so Benellis' I own. My favourite is my Super Vinci by far! The M4 is heavy for waterfowl and goose hunting, but the Super Vinci is the ticket in my opinion. I also like the A400, but the ergos of the Super Vinci, ease of disassembly for cleaning are superior.
I live by the mantra "Buy once, cry once".
I live by the mantra "Buy once, cry once".
Have only owned a couple of cheap autoloaders for hunting use throughout the years. I have however handled and shot a variety of newer
Italian Ber/Ben's and Brown/Winch's that I have traded for. All I can say is WOW! IMHO the newer guns are incredible in their fit and finish
and their operation has been flawless, you get what you pay for and what you get these days are great guns.
Italian Ber/Ben's and Brown/Winch's that I have traded for. All I can say is WOW! IMHO the newer guns are incredible in their fit and finish
and their operation has been flawless, you get what you pay for and what you get these days are great guns.
I have shot most auto's and seen the rest of them in action. I have seen examples of almost perfect reliability and others that could not complete a round of 25. Most hardcore shooters eventually decide they are a Winchester, Beretta or Browning fan and stick with them and tell everyone else their choice is the best. I have four autoloaders right now and if I was going to buy another today it would be a Beretta. But I would never insist to someone they are the "only one to buy" or the "best auto", even if the smart people all know that to be the truth.
By the way where are the SX-1 guy's.
By the way where are the SX-1 guy's.
I'd say you need to go with a Russian made 12 gauge, something like this video!
http://youtu.be/WOoUVeyaY_8
It's a 12 gauge with a lot of attitude
http://youtu.be/WOoUVeyaY_8
It's a 12 gauge with a lot of attitude
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I have owned various Auto 5's, an 11-87, a Beretta and now own a SBEII. I'm done now. The gun fits great and cycles everything I feed it. In fact it has become my goto trap gun which it being camo kind of shocks the gun club junkies. My opinion is gases are best fired downrange with the load not cycling around inside. They are expensive but they are lifetime investments and if you do decide to sell they hold their value. Cleaning a SBEII can be done done in the dark with one hand tied behind your back, simplicity has it's values. Wether they are worth the money is subjective and different people have different expectations. The Franchi Affinity actually has many parts that are identical to a Benelli for quite a bit less money. I would suggest you look at them also.
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Opinions vary of course. There is always a lot of talk about if intertia or gas guns are the best. I like inertia, works for me.
I think that if I had to choose between the modesty priced semis (easily available for about 1000$ or less) - Stoeger M3000, Franchi Affinity, Beretta 300, I would likely choose the cheapest of them the Stoeger. Its Max4, solidly built and fits a taller shooter. i don't see much difference from it to other high end rotating bolt designs. I don't see the need to spend big bucks on something I may have to use as a boat paddle.. Also, I have other shotguns for other purposes than waterfowling (which is all I would want a semi for).
Would I take a Beretta 391 if someone gave it to me at a great price? You bet, in a heartbeat. Would I go out of my way to find one - nope.
Don't get caught up in price, like age, its just a number. I shoot several rounds of skeet a weekend and can assure you that there are people there who routinely outshoot me with much cheaper firearms.
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I think that if I had to choose between the modesty priced semis (easily available for about 1000$ or less) - Stoeger M3000, Franchi Affinity, Beretta 300, I would likely choose the cheapest of them the Stoeger. Its Max4, solidly built and fits a taller shooter. i don't see much difference from it to other high end rotating bolt designs. I don't see the need to spend big bucks on something I may have to use as a boat paddle.. Also, I have other shotguns for other purposes than waterfowling (which is all I would want a semi for).
Would I take a Beretta 391 if someone gave it to me at a great price? You bet, in a heartbeat. Would I go out of my way to find one - nope.
Don't get caught up in price, like age, its just a number. I shoot several rounds of skeet a weekend and can assure you that there are people there who routinely outshoot me with much cheaper firearms.
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