Ruger #1 Value

sillymike said:
If it is still on the EE after 2 or 3 weeks, it's probably priced too high for what the mark with bear.
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Not necessarily... like houses, many guns are waiting for the right buyer... some configurations/calibers are in high demand and will sell in minutes at a premium... others are in awkward or more common calibers and configurations... and take mors time to sell... a No.1-A/S/T or V will sell more quickly than a B version in the same caliber... A/S/T/V's will go for about $100 more than B guns... they are generally around $1000 in excellent condition... where B guns will be in the $900 range. The stainless laminate guns go for about the same as A/S/T guns... rare calibers will go for more money, heavy "African" calibers are often hard to move, but will eventually go for the same as A/S/T guns... RSI guns will go for about $100 more on the used market than a A/S/T in equal condition.
 
In addition... there is the K1A series of walnut/stainless guns that will command about $150 more than a blued 1A, and some Anniversary editions go for $2-300 more, but the biggest price bump are the original untouched 4 digit serial number guns and rare calibers... I am not going to state which calibers command a premium, because I am looking for a couple of them and don't want to drive the price up! ;)
 
Just two years ago they went for around $800 used in EX condition, give or take as Hoyt has stated. The price hike from Ruger last year has affected the used market as well. $1000 for one in EX condition is now a fair price.

My .300H&H will be passed down to one of my kids or grand kids. No way I'm parting with it.
 
hoytcanon said:
Not necessarily... like houses, many guns are waiting for the right buyer...
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As Lionel Hutz tells Marge Simpson when she was a real estate agent : "I'll let you in on a little secret. The right person is anyone, and the right house is the house for sale."

How many people do you know who own 5 or 10 houses?? How about 250 houses?

Gun owners are like a kid in a candy store, they'd buy the whole store if they could. They also buy guns that were not even on their radar if they find a good enough deal. No normal person buys a house just because it was a good deal....

Sure, some people are after that one specific model (stainless Marlin guide gun in 45-70 typically around here it seems... lol) but most people will buy just about anything if the price is right.

That said, I could definitely see how an "African" caliber would be hard to move. Big cartridge+light rifle=big recoil, plus a single shot is not exactly what one would typically take with 'em to hunt dangerous game, so they are really a bit of a niche product... Now if you have one in 45-70 (everyone really likes this cartridge around here dont they? lol) it'll sell in 5 minutes if its priced appropriately.
 
Hoyt, you forgot to mention having the original box and paperwork, and no engraving with a vibrator pen!!

Otherwise I think you and Cam have it about right on the recent price increase, ........wait until our dollar goes to par!
 
Suther said:
As Lionel Hutz tells Marge Simpson when she was a real estate agent : "I'll let you in on a little secret. The right person is anyone, and the right house is the house for sale."
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I don't agree... for every oddball gun out there, there is an oddball shooter looking for it.... it is only a matter of time... like an ugly girl at the prom, eventually an even uglier boy will ask her to dance...

Sure, if you list a Pre-64 M94 NIB/ Unfired for $100, the first person to see it is buying... but list a Sako 85 Safari in .500 J or Merkel double in .416 R for $3000 and 99% of shooters will look and move along, even though both would be a ridiculous bargain... either is just waiting for an uglier boy...

As always, "supply and demand" rule the marketplace...
 
hoytcanon said:
Not necessarily... like houses, many guns are waiting for the right buyer... some configurations/calibers are in high demand and will sell in minutes at a premium... others are in awkward or more common calibers and configurations... and take mors time to sell... a No.1-A/S/T or V will sell more quickly than a B version in the same caliber... A/S/T/V's will go for about $100 more than B guns... they are generally around $1000 in excellent condition... where B guns will be in the $900 range. The stainless laminate guns go for about the same as A/S/T guns... rare calibers will go for more money, heavy "African" calibers are often hard to move, but will eventually go for the same as A/S/T guns... RSI guns will go for about $100 more on the used market than a A/S/T in equal condition.
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I have enough No.1's, but I would buy most AB's that may pop up. Where in the pricing range would they fit in? I haven't been looking very hard lately, but it seems there is rarely any that pop up, why is that? I have an A 30-06 and totally cried my eyes out when one in AB popped up in the EE sometime ago, but it was a bad time for me and I couldn't afford it at that time.
 
two-dogs said:
I have enough No.1's, but I would buy most AB's that may pop up. Where in the pricing range would they fit in? I haven't been looking very hard lately, but it seems there is rarely any that pop up, why is that? I have an A 30-06 and totally cried my eyes out when one in AB popped up in the EE sometime ago, but it was a bad time for me and I couldn't afford it at that time.
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As far as I can tell the B forearm guns move more slowly, the AB version however are somewhat rarer than the standard B and would sell for approximately the same price as the A/S/T guns... it appears that caliber may be more important in a AB than in the A/S's... in the T's caliber is everything. Some desirable calibers in the AB's go for a premium... I made some money in trading an AB .223 for an A in .223, even though the A is a rarer gun... it was one that I had been seeking for sometime.
 
hoytcanon said:
As far as I can tell the B forearm guns move more slowly, the AB version however are somewhat rarer than the standard B and would sell for approximately the same price as the A/S/T guns... it appears that caliber may be more important in a AB than in the A/S's... in the T's caliber is everything. Some desirable calibers in the AB's go for a premium... I made some money in trading an AB .223 for an A in .223, even though the A is a rarer gun... it was one that I had been seeking for sometime.
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Thanks for the info. Yes, I too would be picky on what I would buy in AB's. If you see any or have any to sell, please do let me know. My oldest son and I share a 7x57 in an AB. I sure do love that lil rascal!
 
CheeseBurger said:
Looking at one (not sure whether it's an A/B/S/T) in 7x57.
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A = light sporter, 22" barrel with Alexander Henry forearm, barrel band and iron sights
S = medium sporter, 22" barrel with Alexander Henry forearm, barrel band and iron sights
T = Tropical, 24" (usually) barrel with Alexander Henry forearm, barrel band and iron sights
B= 26" barrel with semi-beaver forearm, scope rib, no sights
V = 24" heavy barrel usually (or sometimes 26"), semi beavertail forearm, V-Blocks, no sights
AH = light sporter, 20" or 22" barrel, no sights but with scope rail and Alex Henry forearm
AB = light sporter, 20" or 22" barrel, no sights but with scope rail and Semi beavertail forearm

This is not an exhaustive list but is the most common configurations... then there is the K series of laminate stainless guns... and the K1A series of stainless with walnut guns (such as the Lipsey's guns).
 
hoytcanon said:
A = light sporter, 22" barrel with Alexander Henry forearm, barrel band and iron sights
S = medium sporter, 22" barrel with Alexander Henry forearm, barrel band and iron sights
T = Tropical, 24" (usually) barrel with Alexander Henry forearm, barrel band and iron sights
B= 26" barrel with semi-beaver forearm, scope rib, no sights
V = 24" heavy barrel usually (or sometimes 26"), semi beavertail forearm, V-Blocks, no sights
AH = light sporter, 20" or 22" barrel, no sights but with scope rail and Alex Henry forearm
AB = light sporter, 20" or 22" barrel, no sights but with scope rail and Semi beavertail forearm

This is not an exhaustive list but is the most common configurations... then there is the K series of laminate stainless guns... and the K1A series of stainless with walnut guns (such as the Lipsey's guns).
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Correct me If I'm wrong but is the Tropical not actually the #1H?
 
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