TT33 load data?

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I'm going to reload for my TT33, using Berry's 110gr 30 carbine bullets, and I have 3 powders to choose from: W231, Unique, and Trail Boss. As many of you know, it's hard to come across load data for the TT33, and most of what you do find is for lighter bullets, or uses different powders.

I'm not too cheap to buy reloading manuals, but how many of them have the data I'm looking for?

If you care to share your data for the 110gr loads, using either of the powders I've mentioned, I'd be grateful. I've got my brass (both Starline and S&B) prepped and primered, and hope to order the Berry's soon so I can reload over winter.

Thanks in advance.
 
Berry's or anybody else's 110gr 30 carbine bullets are the wrong diameter for 7.62 x 25. However, there's fair bit of data, including unreliable data for the Berry's 110, on Handloads.com.
There's a bunch of data on Vihtavuori's site too. Their powders only, of course.
It's said that you can use .30 Mauser data as well.
 
My 7.62x25 pistols shoot the berry's 110 carbine bullet very well. I buy them from Budget Supply.

Unique is probably as fast a powder as you can get away with. My polish Tok likes 5.0 to 5.5 gr (1150 fps)

My 1911 shoots very, very well with the 110 and 5.5 gr. Unique.

The 96gr lead SWC bullet sized 309 is very accurate in both pistols with 5.1 gr of Unique

The 96gr XTP HP bullet works well with 14.1 gr of 296
 
Tokarev's barrels are designed for 85 to 86 grain bullets. Shooting 110 grais are possible, however your point of aim will be off. 308 diameter is a bit on skinny side but may work fine for plinking. I saw at some point very good load data on Makarov.com website for all kind of bullet weights. good luck.
 
Thanks Ganderite- that gives me a starting point, although I've seen a very few loads that ran up as far as 6.2gr. I'll keep looking for more.

Gewehr, thanks for the link, but that website seems to have disappeared. I had a few other links to it that had the same result: "Readyhosting.com this site is temporarily unavailable."
 
stevebc said:
Lengthy, yes, but it doesn't discuss loads for the Berry's 110gr bullet. I've been over CGN a few times looking for load data, but with little result.
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Not specifically the Berry's 110 bullet, but I do mention in the thread that with the jacketed Hornady 110gr bullet, I'm using 4.5 gr of 231, and I use that recipe in all my brass, be it Starline or cut down .223.
 
The TT33s are very strong pistols. They seemed quite able to digest the same ammo as the PPSh submachine guns and others chambered for the 7.62x25 round.

My TT33, Russian, doesn't particularly like the ammo I load for my 7.63 Mauser Broomhandle. It isn't hot enough and I get the odd stove pipe from it.

I have never used the 100-110 grain bullets in my TT33 but really can't see any reason why it shouldn't shoot them well.

If you can keep the velocities up without significant pressure rise that should knock all of the dust off the image of the supposedly anemic cartridge.

IMHO, it is a very effective round for its intended purposes. By increasing the bullet weight it increases sectional density and effective penetration and energy deliverance on target.

I have an M1 Carbine that I have re barreled and re chambered to the 7.62x25 round. It wasn't my idea at all but because of a write up I read about the Chinese seeing two good things when they saw them and combining them into an existing package.

I loaded the rounds for the M1 Carbine to similar velocities as the 110 grain 30 Carbine round. I was a bit worried the brass wasn't up to it but it doesn't seem to have any issues. Next spring, I am going to load up some rounds that will generate more velocity and of course pressures. Not much that can be done with it though as the action just isn't made for much more.

stevebc, please let us know how you do with this research and what you settle on.
 
Mobular said:
Not specifically the Berry's 110 bullet, but I do mention in the thread that with the jacketed Hornady 110gr bullet, I'm using 4.5 gr of 231, and I use that recipe in all my brass, be it Starline or cut down .223.
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Ah, I missed that. Thanks, very useful info, as I already use W231 in my 9mm and .38 S&W.

Bearhunter, I picked 110gr because I kept reading about folks using the M1 carbine bullet, and I'm used to the Berrys in my 9mm. Apart from that, the decision is a tad arbitrary.

I'm not decided on powder yet, but I will post results.
 
I've been casting the Lee 93gn .311 bullets loaded over 3.8gn of HP38 and have had very good success. Factory S&B shoots ridiculously low as does Norc and some of the surplus ammo I've picked up. Surplus is snappy as hell and I do end up with some nice hammer bites at the end of a shoot. Love the TT33 and am considering a second as they're well built rugged pistols and dirt cheap to boot. Get to carry mine on the trapline so that's pretty cool. Of course it's not the best bush gun but it'll have to do for now.
 
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