H&k g3, ar10, h&k 91

Stoner99 said:
It really makes me wonder if there is a government program that is buying them all up, or is it just some big collectors out there with deep pockets.
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I would say there's some collectors out there with really deep pockets. There's quite a few TNW M2HB in the country and the owners never talk about them on CGN and those are semi autos. These type of people seem to be really quiet. Before this thread when is the last time you heard any full auto owner post about their stuff? It's like a secret club and the truly wealthy don't talk about their wealth or flaunt it.
 
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mildcustom2 said:
I would say there's some collectors out there with really deep pockets. There's quite a few TNW M2HB in the country and the owners never talk about them on CGN and those are semi autos. These type of people seem to be really quiet. Before this thread when is the last time you heard any full auto owner post about their stuff? It's like a secret club and the truly wealthy don't talk about their wealth or flaunt it.
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More likely its the demographic of the FA owners not wanting to join the Internet mall ninjas.
 
If they were 18 YO on Jan 1st, 1978, they would be nearly 55 YO now. At the very MINIMUM.
More likely between 60 and dead...

IIRC, the numbers in 78 were ~5000 registered FA, owned by ~2000 collectors.
Now the capped number of 12-2 collectors is less than 800 (and probably not even that, as that was some time ago I read that number)
 
dizzy said:
You can legally sell these firearms to U.S. buyers, through proper channels, proper auction houses ETC so you do need to consider that, and ensure you get the right value for them. Just because you are in Canada, and the firearms are in Canada, does NOT mean they don't have International Value.
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You don't have the foggiest clue do you?
Fully automatic firearms cannot be imported into the USA.
Secondly only firearms that were built and registered with the ATF (now BATFE) before the 19, May 1986 can be owned by civilians.
These are commonly referred to as transferable NFA (National Firearms Act) or Class III firearms.
The only reason that the prices are so high in the USA with M16's going for $20,000 is because no more are coming into the pool.
 
thump_rrr said:
You don't have the foggiest clue do you?
Fully automatic firearms cannot be imported into the USA.
Secondly only firearms that were built and registered with the ATF (now BATFE) before the 19, May 1986 can be owned by civilians.
These are commonly referred to as transferable NFA (National Firearms Act) or Class III firearms.
The only reason that the prices are so high in the USA with M16's going for $20,000 is because no more are coming into the pool.
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Maybe I don't have the foggiest Clue, The USA isn't the only country on the planet, and yes these can all be exported, so prices still need to be internationally calculated. Not domestically.
 
Unfortunately I am between 50 and Dead.

Paul Switzer had a number of FA's at auction earlier this year and they seemed to sell fairly well. I know a SIG AMT in 7.62 NATO FA went for something like $3700.

FA's cant go into the US UNLESS there is some historical significance OR as a Dealer sample. A 21 Thompson with the right serial number could get into the US.

However the US is not the only international destination. I know both Switzerland and Finland allow importation of FA's IIRC.

The numbers I heard on ownership was 7000 in 1977 and something like 3500 owners now.
 
wrangler4867 said:
DEWAT does not come into play here. Status does. I can and have bought the same guns for about $800 ea. Thing is they can not go to an individual whether they have 12.2 or not. This is where the value lies. I can dewat my $800 G3 and make $1000 by selling it to anyone, but that in no way places a value on a transferable 12.2 which is a closed and different market.
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You have no idea how insurance works.
 
We've had a couple of 12(5) rifles come in over the last few years and our experience is that if their on display almost everyone want's to "play" with them. Generally I don't have a problem with customers handling firearms (with respect) however when they are not even in the class to purchase the firearm I tend to limit handling especially when it's on consignment and we don't own it. Last 12(5) was an HK 91 that I bought for myself and it now sits in one of my safes with the FAL and AK that just gather dust. 12(5) guns sold at retail have relatively soft prices however I have seen 12(5)'s and 12(6)'s sold at auction for more than I felt they were worth. In spite of auction houses clearly informing people about the limitation of buying guns in these classes, I have seen several purchased and then finding out they were not qualified to take home so they had to be resold at the next auction. Phil.
 
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