Many of Alberta's wildlife corridors along roads were a result of non-licenced harvest. If licenced hunters are permanently prohibited from hunting there, so are non-licenced hunters.
hunters in Yukon need your support no more. happy ending for this time..
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Many of Alberta's wildlife corridors along roads were a result of non-licenced harvest. If licenced hunters are permanently prohibited from hunting there, so are non-licenced hunters.
Or Alberta and BC....lol You think in today's day and age they could set up a proper survey.
we already have the restriction of 1km from a dwelling.
this is more for controlling the hunters for 1 grizzly killed every three years in the spring this is just the beginning.
there will be a meeting in town the 2nd of December you guys from outside wont be there for sure but we still need your support being voted more than once.
antis are not divided like the hunters are and it s a shame.
this is more for controlling the hunters for 1 grizzly killed every three years in the spring this is just the beginning.
there will be a meeting in town the 2nd of December you guys from outside wont be there for sure but we still need your support being voted more than once.
antis are not divided like the hunters are and it s a shame.
Definitely words to live by!
Really? So the only options are:
Anti-hunting and do not kill animals by any way for any purpose
or
Pro-hunting and kill whenever, whatever and however you want
Is that about it? It is unreasonable to think that hunters will agree on all aspects and in fact there is a wide spectrum of anti as well. I think we are intelligent enough to have a well thought out discussion and are entitled to agree or disagree at the end of the day without having the "you are either with us or against us" mentality.
So what is the purpose of not allowing hunting within 30m of the centerline of a highway? Keeping in mind this is only in the spring time. Maybe the Yukon government doesn't want tourists sitting at the side of a highway taking pictures of a hunter skinning a bear - basically on the highway - and posting those pictures all over the internet. Maybe that kind of publicity will be so bad that it prompts rabid antis to focus attention, time and money onto the Yukon. And where could that lead? I am sure you can use your imagination. I suspect the reason it is only for springtime is because by the fall season most, if not all tourists have left. I don't know, this is just one possibility and something that the locals need to discuss in their meeting. Don't just blindly forge ahead because you could end up shooting yourself in the foot. In fact, I would try to get a pre-meeting meeting together in order to brainstorm and get your ducks in row.
Is it really that hard to go 25 meters off a highway to shoot an animal?
No I'd say there are lots of options that could be mutually and respectfully discussed and a single, unified solution presented. In a democracy you don't always get what you want but there are times that it pays to listen to others and offer your opinion as well. In the end, you may not always get your first choice but supporting a a second choice in a unified manner may prevent you from getting your fourth of fifth choice shoved down your throat.
I should also point out that, unless I read the information package incorrectly, only 1 grizzly bear was killed within 30m of the southern highways in the two year period of the survey (2011-2012) out of an annual average harvest of 83 bears (so 1 out of 166 grizzlies). So there are two ways to look at this - basically nothing will change with the implementation regarding harvest and opportunities OR the government is over-reacting to a Facebook page and visitor surveys.
IMO the persons with a vested interest - specifically Yukon hunters - should consider and talk about all options and possible results from their position.
Edit to add some links:
Review of roadside hunting set to start
http://yukon-news.com/news/review-of-roadside-hunting-set-to-start/
and
Friends and foes of highway hunting face off
http://www.yukon-news.com/news/friends-and-foes-of-highway-hunting-face-off/
IMO the persons with a vested interest - specifically Yukon hunters - should consider and talk about all options and possible results from their position.
Edit to add some links:
Review of roadside hunting set to start
http://yukon-news.com/news/review-of-roadside-hunting-set-to-start/
and
Friends and foes of highway hunting face off
http://www.yukon-news.com/news/friends-and-foes-of-highway-hunting-face-off/
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The Facebook page that probably got the ball rolling has 1169 likes and links the survey, so you know they are going to be on this:
ht tps://www.facebook.com/YukonHuntingRulesNeedToChange
The Facebook page that supports keeping things the way they are has only 266 likes:
ht tps://www.facebook.com/YukonHuntingRulesStandFirm
ht tps://www.facebook.com/YukonHuntingRulesNeedToChange
The Facebook page that supports keeping things the way they are has only 266 likes:
ht tps://www.facebook.com/YukonHuntingRulesStandFirm
1899,
what is behind is more interesting that really those 20 or 30 meters ... and do you think they will stop here ... we are talking about 1 bear shot in the spring every three springs ...
in great britain they stopped the fox hunting because it was cruel most of the hunters didnt want to be involved because it was not good for their image this is exactly what is happening we are scared and i can add in different countries like Slovenija for brown bear hunting, scandinavia for wolf hunting or the traditionnal hunts like using glues to collect birds in france we may not like it but at the end we the hunters will be alone and only the ethical ones ...
and whatever the people may think yukon is living from mining not tourism even if we like to think differently ...
i dont want to quote Martin Niemöller about first they came ... because it will be too much but the antis have a agenda and they will never stop like the anti which surprinsgly are in too the anti hunt the anti guns .... needlsee to says hunters that possess firearms dont support all the guns what a surprise if we are so divided ...
what is behind is more interesting that really those 20 or 30 meters ... and do you think they will stop here ... we are talking about 1 bear shot in the spring every three springs ...
in great britain they stopped the fox hunting because it was cruel most of the hunters didnt want to be involved because it was not good for their image this is exactly what is happening we are scared and i can add in different countries like Slovenija for brown bear hunting, scandinavia for wolf hunting or the traditionnal hunts like using glues to collect birds in france we may not like it but at the end we the hunters will be alone and only the ethical ones ...
and whatever the people may think yukon is living from mining not tourism even if we like to think differently ...
i dont want to quote Martin Niemöller about first they came ... because it will be too much but the antis have a agenda and they will never stop like the anti which surprinsgly are in too the anti hunt the anti guns .... needlsee to says hunters that possess firearms dont support all the guns what a surprise if we are so divided ...
You may be right, but I suggest that we wouldn't even be having this discussion if the bear near Tagish hadn't been shot. That is the point - there is more than one user group and all of them have importance. Move a bit off the highway, shoot the bear and all is well. Shoot ONE bear on the highway in two years and the wrong person sees it, and you have this kind of fight on your hands.
that bear was just an excuse from the anti side this is not the first time they are attempting this closure ... old Yukoners can tell more about this.
yukon-news.com/news/atlin-no-hunting-corridor-shot-down
you werent at the last meeting and the antis wanted the closure of any bears hunting and for all the territory not only road ... this is where we are going.
btw im one of those that ask the hunters to bring the meat of any bears hunted not only skull and hide.
i have to repeat that we have a one kilometer no shoot from a dwelling unless a written authorisation is given ... why adding 30 meters ....
ps on that one first nations are opposed to this proposal.
so facebook is the way now that we should make rules ...
have you heard to you can buy likes?????
hunters are divided not the antis ...
one page is mentionned not the other one. there is an agenda and you seems to not see it.
This is the start of what will come down the pipe very soon, grizzly hunting is on the way out. Public opinion is grizzlies should be protected and a ban implemented. This may seem like a road hunting issue but its smoke and mirrors, its just a step to ban grizzly hunting, followed by many more restrictions ..... How many grizzlies are taken on Yukon roadways honestly....3-4 per year. In all my years I have never driven by a hunter skinning a bear on the side of a Yukon highway. Only bear hunting rule that should change is the mandatory removal of meat
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Take a look at some of their logic......... Unbelievable...... One of the problems with these Antis is that when you point out the facts to them and why they are unable to defend their position, they have a little episode and resort to derogatory... Then they delete their posts once they come back to their senses! haha
Final public meeting tomorrow night in Whitehorse for anyone who is around town!
Take a look at some of their logic......... Unbelievable...... One of the problems with these Antis is that when you point out the facts to them and why they are unable to defend their position, they have a little episode and resort to derogatory... Then they delete their posts once they come back to their senses! haha
Final public meeting tomorrow night in Whitehorse for anyone who is around town!
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