22-250 vs 223
- Thread starter Rascal
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.223 = cheap ammo, small boom, 300 yds max.
.22-250 = more expensive ammo, bigger boom, 500 yds max.
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can you explain?
in the army we used open sights up to 400 meters and more with a little scope how do you stop yourself to 300 yards with the .223?
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The velocity advantage of the the .22-250, when chambered in a standard twist barrel, is lost against the fast rate of twist that is commonly available with .223, allowing longer high BC bullets to be shot at longer ranges with less wind drift. Chamber a custom 1:7 barrel for .22-250, and it will have a decisive advantage over the .223; but a 55 gr bullet in a 1:12 .22-250 doesn't have any advantage over an 80 gr bullet that's fired out of a fast twist .223. When varmints are the target, the rotational velocity increase to the bullet from the fast twist bullet will increase the terminal effect of that bullet as surely as an increase in its impact velocity. If two rifles, both with 1:12 twist barrels were compared, one a .223 and the other a .22-250, the .22-250 has the advantage, at least on paper. The question then is, how many riflemen can make use of the difference in performance on small live targets, when you have to start cranking your elevation, or worse, your windage turrets?
Bigfoot 870
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Yep. He's talking about hunting. Even coyotes deserve not to suffer.
I like bang/flops when I hunt coyotes which is the reason I own 2 223 and 1 22-250 rifles.
I do not get bang flops past 150 yards with a 223
I get bang/flops out to 300 yards with my 22-250
I don't care if a heavier bullet will eventually kill coyotes at a greater distance I grab the 22-250 if shot distances maybe longer cause I do not want to be tracking them.
I do not get bang flops past 150 yards with a 223
I get bang/flops out to 300 yards with my 22-250
I don't care if a heavier bullet will eventually kill coyotes at a greater distance I grab the 22-250 if shot distances maybe longer cause I do not want to be tracking them.
I will say it again, people who buy the 223 always wonder about the 22-250. It doesn't work in reverse.
Most sporter 223's have the same twist as the 22-250 and you can buy a faster twist 22-250.
I have a BRNO 601 that was a 223 and had it re-chambered for 22-250, twist rate is 1-12. Factory Winchester value packs 45g chrono at 4080fps out of this rifle.
Most sporter 223's have the same twist as the 22-250 and you can buy a faster twist 22-250.
I have a BRNO 601 that was a 223 and had it re-chambered for 22-250, twist rate is 1-12. Factory Winchester value packs 45g chrono at 4080fps out of this rifle.
Sure it does, if you think outside of the box. I shoot both of them, btw.
Actually, many sporting 223's are now offered in 1 in 9 or 1 in 8.
You can, but the bulk of the factory offerings still tend to be 1 in 12 or 1 in 14.
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If you need a serious advantage over a .223, switch up to a fast 6mm, then bang flops at 600 and beyond get easier.
This!! A 6mm Remington, driving a 70 grain Ballistic tip to 3600+ or a 95 to 3250 is plenty effective dog medicine....way, way out there.
Dave.
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The 22-250 will shoot bullets of equal weight quite a bit flatter and coyotes always seem to be on the move, for that reason I've found that using a range finder and fiddling with turrets or ranging reticles is most often not an option, so a flat shooting caliber like the 22-250 is definitely helpful. You can pick a bullet that'll kill coyotes reliably where you can almost hold dead on out to 350 yards, you won't find that in a 223.
Totally agree. If you want to see a real jump in performance, get out of 224 altogether and step up to 243 and beyond.
so a bullet coming from a 22-250 will be deadly and not from a 223 .... wow explain me that ...
If you're properly connecting with a coyote's vitals at 400 yds, with a .223, and not getting a bang flop.. you need a better bullet. I shoot .223 exclusively for prairie coyotes, never felt under gunned. That said, 400 yds is absolute max for me, I much prefer to call them in as close as possible.
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I AGREE the 22-250 is a Better cartridge over the 223 at longer ranges - and the 240 WBee is way better again over either ! JMO RJ
I know what your talking...
Already have a 6mm-284 and just added a 25-06 a few days ago
Been thinking of rebarreling my 6mm-284 for years now twist rate is 1 - 12" I want a 24" 1 - 10" twist.
I want to shoot the heavier higher BC bullets like a 90gr Scirroco.
Having shot both .223 and .22/250 in many platforms for decades, I would only agree that the 250 has a significant advantage over a fast twist .223 on paper... in reality they do the same job... to see a significant performance advantage you would need to move to the 6mm's and 6.5mm's. IMO.
Bigfoot 870
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I'll give it a shot (pun intended)
No one is saying a bullet from a 223 isn't going to kill something.
Using me as an example I'm saying that a much slower moving bullet out of a 223 will not have the instant smack down at greater ranges like a 22-250 has and not as much as a fast 6mm or 25 cal has.
No one is saying a bullet from a 223 isn't going to kill something.
Using me as an example I'm saying that a much slower moving bullet out of a 223 will not have the instant smack down at greater ranges like a 22-250 has and not as much as a fast 6mm or 25 cal has.
I don't think you would understand, so I digress.
lol ... dont tell me speed is killing ... seems you are not willing to educate me: a shame honestly ...
