Chinese sks rifles

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VZ-fan said:
List them at $200 = good profit and little controversy

List them at $300 = great profit and lots of controversy

Controversy = free advertising

IMO the Russian SKS is a much better gun......and at a better price, refurb or not.
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Free advertising? Yes! On this one I really don't know if it is good or BAD advertising?
 
relic38 said:
Actually, it's nothing like that. First, no depression right now and the higher price is not ten-fold what it was before.

This is selling stock of something that is fairly close to the going market rate for the described item.

How I see it, there are a lot of different SKS grades out there, and these particular ones are considered some of the best around. They are in limited availability, so the price is based on the supply and demand. Since there was no supply to accurately determine the going price, the safe option is to start on the higher end. If it doesn't sell, you can always go lower. If you started lower, you would not likely get a chance to raise the price before you are sold out.
I'm definitely not an Economics major, but I totally understand where Marstar is at with their pricing.
Look for these to be gone in a week or so, if not the price may drop by the new year. Or not; it sounds like these have been sitting around a bit. Not a big deal to sit on them another few months at the current price.
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Of ALL the SKS rifles I can find right now, these will be the best.. hands down. Those who are knowledgeable realize this. Are they rare...? No Will they rocket up in value in your lifetime...? Probably not.

Are they brand new, old stock, numbers matching, milspec specimens made in the golden age of the sks? Yes

Soviets had cooler bayonet and better wood... that is all. And you can't get any new ones from them, can you???
 
relic38 said:
Actually, it's nothing like that. First, no depression right now and the higher price is not ten-fold what it was before.

This is selling stock of something that is fairly close to the going market rate for the described item.

How I see it, there are a lot of different SKS grades out there, and these particular ones are considered some of the best around. They are in limited availability, so the price is based on the supply and demand. Since there was no supply to accurately determine the going price, the safe option is to start on the higher end. If it doesn't sell, you can always go lower. If you started lower, you would not likely get a chance to raise the price before you are sold out.
I'm definitely not an Economics major, but I totally understand where Marstar is at with their pricing.
Look for these to be gone in a week or so, if not the price may drop by the new year. Or not; it sounds like these have been sitting around a bit. Not a big deal to sit on them another few months at the current price.
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Right, depression in correlation with product demand and availability semantics aside, and the math is off.
But otherwise, it's clear by comparison what is being done here.
I for one think the price listed reflects the quality of the rifle just fine.
The way the profit margin is skewed is another story though. If it were me, I would pass the saving onto the CGN community, not fully obsorb the extended profit margin on these "found " rifles in a such a gluttonous fashion.
They will sell, as they should because they are fine rifles, I love both of mine.
 
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smokeater40 said:
I would love on of these, but with the season, I couldn't afford until the New Year. Too bad as they WILL all be sold by then. For you who don't like the price, that is your opinion, new unfired Chinese are excellent deal at this price, in this market. Free shipping would be nice though. Martstar brings the unusual and not often seen fire arms to the market.

No I don't work there.

OK, I am ready.........fire away
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CALL one of our people and put down a deposit and we will hold until you require it John
 
I have a problem and require some expert advise.... Seeing how people react to selling something for more than was paid for it....

I have an almost mint Winchester 92 saddle ring carbine that I was thinking of selling.... Here is the problem my uncle paid $16.50 at the turn of the last century, I would feel guilty asking more.... What do you think ??
John
 
johnone said:
I have a problem and require some expert advise.... Seeing how people react to selling something for more than was paid for it....

I have an almost mint Winchester 92 saddle ring carbine that I was thinking of selling.... Here is the problem my uncle paid $16.50 at the turn of the last century, I would feel guilty asking more.... What do you think ??
John
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False comparison...

Your uncle was selling it for 200$ bucks yesterday (which is what its reasonably worth). Today sees you want it as never before and asks you 300$ (which is not what its worth).

Has nothing to do with the initial price you acquired them.

Its called gouging, overcharge or swindle.
 
Rick911 said:
False comparison...

Your uncle was selling it for 200$ bucks yesterday (which is what its reasonably worth). Today sees you want it as never before and asks you 300$ (which is not what its worth).

Has nothing to do with the initial price you acquired them.

Its called gouging, overcharge or swindle.
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No expert, but I would have to agree. The market is flooded with Chinese SKSes and I don't see too many Winchester 92s on the market in working condition or otherwise.
 
No one is forcing you to pay. Do you people get pissy when you're shopping for a $30,000 car and see one for $60,000? "IT'S STILL A CAR THEY SHOULD BE THE SAME PRICE!!!!" Idiots.
 
I will prefix this post with the fact that I have purchased a new in the grease Chinese SKS this year for $159, and later after they ran out, an unfired but degreased one for $200.

Having said that, didn't Ricky ever teach you guys anything about supply and command? I sold one for $300 last month, it's a fair price for one now.
 
BeaverMeat said:
No expert, but I would have to agree. The market is flooded with Chinese SKSes and I don't see too many Winchester 92s on the market in working condition or otherwise.
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The market is flooded with Chinese SKS's? Hmm. Must be a different market than I'm seeing. Marstar is one of the very few who have them available right now. Hardly flooded.
 
Marstar have offered and provided some great deals. Many have benefited.
If you don't like the price of something right now just move along - stop whining!
Be thankful for the bargains that have been had already, and if you missed out, tough. Life ain't fair sometimes.
 
At one time the market was flooded with Chinese sks's, Russians were a little more tricky to source, now its the opposite. I can only imagine the amount of people who have Chinese SKS's like myself and are just sitting back enjoying reading all these comments. :popCorn:
 
Rick911 said:
False comparison...

Your uncle was selling it for 200$ bucks yesterday (which is what its reasonably worth). Today sees you want it as never before and asks you 300$ (which is not what its worth).

Has nothing to do with the initial price you acquired them.

Its called gouging, overcharge or swindle.
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Well, although I understand your reasoning, the fact stands that they are his rifles and he made a wise choice holding on to a few crates, they can be put on the market for any price he pleases, just like on the EE! They were the cheapest of the SKS and now because they are temporarily scarce, they get what the market will bear! I would suggest that all us sour grapes folks go and buy whatever SKS by the crate while they are still available, and when they are few and far between, sell them for a tidy profit!! We are not like the places where these rifles come from, it is a free market, the market sets the price by supply and demand! You have the choice to buy or walk but we cannot complain if a company wishes to take advantage of a temporary shortage. It is likely that this will set a new norm for Chinese SKS, so those that have them in unfired condition can also profit! Once you fire them, they will be as before, worth less than the Russian refurbs!
 
relic38 said:
The market is flooded with Chinese SKS's? Hmm. Must be a different market than I'm seeing. Marstar is one of the very few who have them available right now. Hardly flooded.
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How many people have one Chinese SKS, or two, or five? They're out there. I suppose the jump in price is demand driven, but the secondhand market is flooded to be exact.

I still have a sour taste in my mouth when a Western dealer jumped their Russian SKS prices by %50 because of the whole Ukraine situation. It was the end if cheap Russian SKSes we were told... Yet, more came in. How could that be?
 
bobdbldr said:
Well, although I understand your reasoning, the fact stands that they are his rifles and he made a wise choice holding on to a few crates, they can be put on the market for any price he pleases, just like on the EE! They were the cheapest of the SKS and now because they are temporarily scarce, they get what the market will bear! I would suggest that all us sour grapes folks go and buy whatever SKS by the crate while they are still available, and when they are few and far between, sell them for a tidy profit!! We are not like the places where these rifles come from, it is a free market, the market sets the price by supply and demand! You have the choice to buy or walk but we cannot complain if a company wishes to take advantage of a temporary shortage. It is likely that this will set a new norm for Chinese SKS, so those that have them in unfired condition can also profit! Once you fire them, they will be as before, worth less than the Russian refurbs!
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I agree, they can price gouge all they want. They know it. We know it. Everybody knows it. But lets call a spade a spade.

Nobody never said they had not the right to. Just makes them look bad.
 
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Craig0ry said:
Most Chinese type 56 were never arsenal refurbed, most the ones in country started out brand new and packed in Cosmo, so it's really nothing special, I do get the supply and demand, people are going to pay this watch and see
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You're right. It's nothing new. These have always sold at a premium to arsenal refurbs. This is just a larger premium than we've seen in the past. I stand by my statement. You don't like the price ... don't buy one ...
 
Guys, I think the asking price is fair. They may seem a little steep, but all things considered where else are you going to find something comparable? I paid 250 a few months ago at another sponsor (matching numbers, machined receiver but stamped trigger guard)- BECAUSE THESE WERE SOLD OUT. Had I not bought that I would definitely pay 300 for one of these and be damn happy about it.
 
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