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.308SAVAGE

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Hey everybody im new to this site and had a few questions. I have a 1941 mosin and am looking for some parts. What I am lookg for is a scope mount for it. I like the Rock Solid Ind mount but hey dont ship to Canada. Is there someplace in Canada that makes a similar mount or imports this one? Also is there someqhere in Canada that does a bent bolt? Thanks for any help to a newbie mosin owner.
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hey savage to answer i need to know a few things is your mosin a hex or round reviver? second you can import the rocksoild mount just a pita, HICAL offers a trushot mount which is what i use on my mosin its only for the round revicer tho, ati makes one that replaces the rear sight iirc, corwin arms has a belt bolt but requires more modification to clear the trushot mount.

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Copy and pasted an earlier reply from an earlier thread:

The best mount are the Rock Solid Industries mounts (you'll need to import through borderview, you can Google them, good guys out of Washington state, they are the cheapest).

Next best thing available in Canada is the TrueShot stocked by http://www.hical.ca/

Both make round and hexagonal receiver versions.
 
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Use the dovetail under the rear sight. Lowest mounting option.
 
Thanks RobertMcC. Where could I order these from? And as I am totally new to guns and such...which is the dovetail??
Thanks.

Never mind I got it...use the mount under the rear site
 
.308SAVAGE if you're new to firearms I strongly suggest you choose a different rifle platform to mount optics on. It will be less expensive in the long run and adding a scout scope mount adds zero value when reselling a 91/30. Cabelas has the Savage Axis on for $350 and will also give instructions for a $50 manufactures rebate.
 
bp2626 said:
.308SAVAGE if you're new to firearms I strongly suggest you choose a different rifle platform to mount optics on. It will be less expensive in the long run and adding a scout scope mount adds zero value when reselling a 91/30. Cabelas has the Savage Axis on for $350 and will also give instructions for a $50 manufactures rebate.
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Ya thanks for the tip. I already have the savage in .308 and i got it a lot cheeper than that at Wholesale Sports, but thanks. I had a client give me the mosin after I did his floors. Just want to make it into a hunting rifle. Not looking to do it all right now....just trying to get all the info so I know what I want and where to get it once I do decide to make the change over.
 
I saw a mount on ebay its from the states but on ebay.ca you can order it around 30 $ says is cnc machines alum. with rings or the bottom piece as part of the base, again ,takes out rear sight but i think it was called BullseyeXpress....take a look at that too. i was thinking aobut getting one of those for around 30$ the reviews read great too.
 
SAVAGE, not all Mosins are made equal, and on many (if not most) the rear sight is actually soldered to the barrel. Even if you drive out the pins (which wasn't too bad on my Mosin), the rear sight won't budge unless you put a blowtorch to it to melt the solder underneath. Apparently the heat can damage the rifle's bluing though, and I am not willing to subject my gun to such abuse. So instead I've been looking for a decent price for the Brass Stacker removable mount that goes over the rear sight. The upside is that it doesn't require a removal of the iron sights and allows the shooter to continue using them. The downside is, the scope ends up sitting quite high over the barrel, which may or may not be an issue. Most Brass Stacker users swear by it in their online reviews but unfortunately the price in Canada is ridiculously high (check out Amazon.ca).

The other issue with any mount that goes in place of or over the rear sights of a Mosin is that it requires a pistol scope to give you the proper eye relief. Because of the rifle's kick, however, many cheaper pistol scopes apparently don't hold zero very well on a Mosin, so to get a reliable scope you would have to shell out more money than you paid for the rifle itself. The price factor is the only reason I am still shooting my Mosin using its terrible iron sights.



.308SAVAGE said:
Thanks RobertMcC. Where could I order these from? And as I am totally new to guns and such...which is the dovetail??
Thanks.

Never mind I got it...use the mount under the rear site
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Caspain Canuck said:
SAVAGE, not all Mosins are made equal, and on many (if not most) the rear sight is actually soldered to the barrel. Even if you drive out the pins (which wasn't too bad on my Mosin), the rear sight won't budge unless you put a blowtorch to it to melt the solder underneath. Apparently the heat can damage the rifle's bluing though, and I am not willing to subject my gun to such abuse. So instead I've been looking for a decent price for the Brass Stacker removable mount that goes over the rear sight. The upside is that it doesn't require a removal of the iron sights and allows the shooter to continue using them. The downside is, the scope ends up sitting quite high over the barrel, which may or may not be an issue. Most Brass Stacker users swear by it in their online reviews but unfortunately the price in Canada is ridiculously high (check out Amazon.ca).

The other issue with any mount that goes in place of or over the rear sights of a Mosin is that it requires a pistol scope to give you the proper eye relief. Because of the rifle's kick, however, many cheaper pistol scopes apparently don't hold zero very well on a Mosin, so to get a reliable scope you would have to shell out more money than you paid for the rifle itself. The price factor is the only reason I am still shooting my Mosin using its terrible iron sights.
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Only 2 options.

Drill and tap and a bent bolt,

Or scout mount. ( replace rear sight )

I went with removing the rear sight because of the quality of a mosin. There is none. Some mounts might be squared some might be off set. I wanted a much simple lower base.

If Its a 91/30 or a 91/59 Strong Punch ( I started with a small short screw driver, hex,torq bit and vise grips to hold ) then finished off with a punch and Big Hammer. Then a Wooden block and Hammer and off she goes.
 
@RobertMcC: That's fine unless you want to keep the rear sights as a backup option. Personally I like the idea of not permanently modifying the rifle and keeping the iron sights, however terrible they may be, because even with those I am managing some pretty decent groups (http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php/1165796-Mosin-91-30-shooting-results). Ideally, I would like to be able to switch back and forth between the scope and the irons to compare the results and to see just how much error my eye sight introduces.
 
Caspain Canuck said:
@RobertMcC: That's fine unless you want to keep the rear sights as a backup option. Personally I like the idea of not permanently modifying the rifle and keeping the iron sights, however terrible they may be, because even with those I am managing some pretty decent groups (http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php/1165796-Mosin-91-30-shooting-results). Ideally, I would like to be able to switch back and forth between the scope and the irons to compare the results and to see just how much error my eye sight introduces.
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I hated how high scout scope bases sat. I went back to irons but not the factory mosin.
 
RobertMcC said:
I went with removing the rear sight because of the quality of a mosin. There is none.
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Ouch... you sure don't think highly of these firearms... so I'm curious why you even bought one ??

I own a few Mosin Nagants... and will probably buy more as money becomes available. You "might" almost call me a collector.

I specifically bought my first one as a dedicated deer rifle. Another I bought is a beautiful 1940 (aka pre-war) Izzy that looks, feels and shoots like anything manufactured in North America. I am keeping that one completely stock. Another one is an ex-Dragoon that has a few issues (trigger creep and notorious "slap bolt" syndrome) but I'm sure I can fix all that with a little tinkering.

If the OP wants to scope his Mosin who are we to discourage him? The goal of this forum is to educate and share information.
 
lalunette said:
Ouch... you sure don't think highly of these firearms... so I'm curious why you even bought one ??

I own a few Mosin Nagants... and will probably buy more as money becomes available. You "might" almost call me a collector.

I specifically bought my first one as a dedicated deer rifle. Another I bought is a beautiful 1940 (aka pre-war) Izzy that looks, feels and shoots like anything manufactured in North America. I am keeping that one completely stock. Another one is an ex-Dragoon that has a few issues (trigger creep and notorious "slap bolt" syndrome) but I'm sure I can fix all that with a little tinkering.

If the OP wants to scope his Mosin who are we to discourage him? The goal of this forum is to educate and share information.
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I don't really got high praise for anything you can buy off a shelve for under 200$, They are great for what they are. Basic crude built, cheap and reliable. I was given one.

How am I discouraging the OP? By telling him not to go with the ones that replaces the rear sight leaf. But actually mount direct to the barrel? That allows stronger and lower scope mounting?
 
.308SAVAGE said:
Ya thanks for the tip. I already have the savage in .308 and i got it a lot cheeper than that at Wholesale Sports, but thanks. I had a client give me the mosin after I did his floors. Just want to make it into a hunting rifle. Not looking to do it all right now....just trying to get all the info so I know what I want and where to get it once I do decide to make the change over.
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Ah, fair enough. I also turned one into a hunting rifle. Do it the proper way, import the Rock Solid mount or contact hical and get a TrueShot mount for them. Gives you a proper scope mount. You can add a cheek piece and you have yourself a fine hunting rifle.

RobertMcC said:
I don't really got high praise for anything you can buy off a shelve for under 200$, They are great for what they are. Basic crude built, cheap and reliable. I was given one.

How am I discouraging the OP? By telling him not to go with the ones that replaces the rear sight leaf. But actually mount direct to the barrel? That allows stronger and lower scope mounting?
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I don't mean to be rude but this is a pretty ignorant view. Disliking a rifle because of aesthetics or lack of features is one thing, but price? They are $200 a piece because unlike pussy NATO countries Russia actually puts their military firearms up on the surplus market. They just so happened to make millions of Mosin-Nagant rifles, so, think supply and demand. They are $200 a piece because they are plentiful, that's the only reason. Russia won two world wars fielding the Mosin-Nagant. I am proud of Canada for landing on Juno beach and liberating the dutch but believe me I have no illusions The Red Banner was going to fly over the Reichstag either way.
 
bp2626 said:
Ah, fair enough. I also turned one into a hunting rifle. Do it the proper way, import the Rock Solid mount or contact hical and get a TrueShot mount for them. Gives you a proper scope mount. You can add a cheek piece and you have yourself a fine hunting rifle.



I don't mean to be rude but this is a pretty ignorant view. Disliking a rifle because of aesthetics or lack of features is one thing, but price? They are $200 a piece because unlike pussy NATO countries Russia actually puts their military firearms up on the surplus market. They just so happened to make millions of Mosin-Nagant rifles, so, think supply and demand. They are $200 a piece because they are plentiful, that's the only reason. Russia won two world wars fielding the Mosin-Nagant. I am proud of Canada for landing on Juno beach and liberating the dutch but believe me I have no illusions The Red Banner was going to fly over the Reichstag either way.
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Okay?
 
Well, technically Russia didn't win two world wars because the Bolsheviks bailed out of the first one, just like Lenin had promised his German masters before the communist coup in 1917. ;)

As for the second one, it's debatable whether or not the USSR would have been able to beat back the Germans without all the help it was getting from the Allies. Unbiased historians even in Russia itself admit now that without all the foreign help the USSR would likely have fought the Nazis to a stalemate, giving up most of the territory they conquered by 1942.

But of course none of that diminishes the value of Mosin as one of the great combat rifles in the history of warfare. Aesthetics-wise, the beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but to me it looks like a beautiful rifle.
 
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