Marlin and H&R issues, ongoing!

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Long story, but here it goes......

Purchased a H&R .308 Survivor brand new a couple years ago. Took it to the range only to find I couldn't extract the spent shells. Sent it to Gravel Agency (Canadian warranty centre) and they found the chamber was defective, and replaced the whole rifle. This whole process took several months, which saw me without the rifle for the whole big game season here in Nova Scotia. I was not impressed with the H&R inspection or quality assurance process. However, Gravel Agency was great to deal with.

This leads me to my next story......

I purchased a new Marlin 336y last spring. I had difficulty lining up the first scope I put on it. I tried a second, brand new scope on the rifle and had the same problem. This couldn't just be coincidence! I put a straight edge on the rifle and found out the barrel is bent approximately .5 cm to the left at the end of the barrel. Couldn't believe my luck. But wait, this gets better! I sent the rifle away to Gravel, again, and they determined that I was correct, the barrel is bent and they cannot repair it. I was told that they had plenty of 336y rifles in stock and they would send me a new one immediately. This was about a month ago. I contacted Gravel this week when I still hadn't received my new rifle. "NONE OF THE IN-STOCK RIFLES PASSED INSPECTION", and they were unable to send me one. They are waiting for new stock to arrive from Remington, and they are unsure when the stock will arrive. Another hunting season without a new rifle.

I'm trying to find a contact email for Marlin customer support, but they only have snail mail. I emailed Freedom Ventures or whatever the parent company of Marlin, Remington, H&R etc. is. I'm waiting for a response.

IMHO........stay away from these products.
 
Some of us enjoy the gals of days gawn by, me included.
Hunted with, scratched, dinged, saddle tramp, trunk muhnkies and such.
S'perienced gals have a way over the new chit.

Awff tuh the EE with you................. :wave:
 
I had 3 336Y in my hand from 2 different gun shops - all were crap - kudos to Lebaron (2) and EPPs (1) for taking them back and refunding my $$. I really wanted a 16' marlin but it will not be a new model 336Y!
 
I had heard on other forums that the marlin quality control issues were a thing of the past. Either that is not true, or you got some gun from the dark days post 2009 when Remlington took over. H & R the same way, rather discouraging that they did not learn their lesson from the issues at Marlin.
 
Pretty sad what has become of one of the best firearm makers in the world. I have personally seen both the op's defective rifles. Actually,his last two purchases and a remington 597 that I purchased had to go to Grave agency because of what can only be described as "nonexistent "quality control! My advice to the management group currently at the helm of Remington,Marlin and h&r is simple.....GET OUT OF THE FIREARMS BUSINESS!
 
nowarningshot said:
I had heard on other forums that the marlin quality control issues were a thing of the past. Either that is not true, or you got some gun from the dark days post 2009 when Remlington took over. H & R the same way, rather discouraging that they did not learn their lesson from the issues at Marlin.
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I purchased a Marlin 1895 a little while back that was made in 2014 (there's a thread relating to this) that had little to no rifling in it. Quality control issues are still an issue in my opinion.
 
MetricMan said:
I purchased a Marlin 1895 a little while back that was made in 2014 (there's a thread relating to this) that had little to no rifling in it. Quality control issues are still an issue in my opinion.
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The thread you are referring to was for a Marlin made in 2007 and I think that the confusion is what is meant by deep cut Ballard rifling, since in all the Guide guns I have looked at it never seemed deep cut, also early manufactured guide guns did have micro grove rifling!. It would be nice if people posted the barrel codes when stating that they have a Remington manufactured Marlin that has problems, since then it would be possible to know when it was actually manufactured. (i.e not old stock). The following is a good review of a current Marlin manufactured guide gun.

http://www.realguns.com/articles/425.htm

In regard to the Marlin 336Y I do not see it as a product anymore on the Marlin site, which is kind of surprising if they are going to produce it in 2015. I do however see that LeBarrons is still selling them, however it maybe old stock.
 
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rhino62 said:
The thread you are referring to was for a Marlin made in 2007 and I think that the confusion is what is meant by deep cut Ballard rifling, since in all the Guide guns I have looked at it never seemed deep cut, also early manufactured guide guns did have micro grove rifling!. It would be nice if people posted the barrel codes when stating that they have a Remington manufactured Marlin that has problems, since then it would be possible to know when it was actually manufactured. (i.e not old stock). The following is a good review of a current Marlin manufactured guide gun.

http://www.realguns.com/articles/425.htm

In regard to the Marlin 336Y I do not see it as a product anymore on the Marlin site, which is kind of surprising if they are going to produce it in 2015. I do however see that LeBarrons is still selling them, however it maybe old stock.
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The thread he is referring to is his thread, and it's regarding a 2014 mfd rifle.

All the Marlin website is good for is for looking at pictures of what their rifles should look like, you know, before the takeover took place.
 
I handled a 1894 at wholesale sports here cause I needed a 44 mag for work. Rifle looked mostly ok with the trigger lock on it. the loading gate had a gap at the rear of it, but not a major deal for a rifle that will get bashed around.

So, I asked the guy to take the cable wrap lock off of the lever, so I could see how it cycled. action seemed to open and close more or less smoothly. But when I looked, the bolt was still almost a 16th of an inch from closing at the front. I showed it to the guy, and he told me that was how they worked. I told him that wasn't how they are supposed to work, and handed him back the rifle. He asked me how I knew that was the case, and I told him that both my boss and I had JM stamped 1894s, and neither of them did that. He was a little bit miffed with me...

I wound up buying a used Japanese browning 92 action. It locked up properly. However, the action was stiff, so I spent a while cycling it (all the time while watching a full season of True Blood). After I got it so there was slight wear on all the locking lug surfaces, I took the diamond psa films from lee valley, and honed them till every surface just had all the marks removed. Before I honed it, the one locking lug was much tighter than the other and bearing more load on the top surface. Now they're even. She cycles very smooth.
 
So why buy a new one? There are plenty of good used pre Remington Marlin out there, some at very reasonable prices. Far superior to the new stuff! I have four of them. All great shooters.
 
I used to work at a gun store circa 2009-2012. I received all the rifles, organized the rack, sent away for repairs, did special orders ect.

We got a shipment of Marlin 39A lever actions. 9 rifles and every one was defective. Only a few of the would even cycle out of the box.

Got 60+ Marlin Mod 60s and a full half had stocks broken in two at the wrist.
 
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