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Hi All,

Just doing some thinking lately. Trying to decide between a Remington Model 770 and a Remington Model 783. I am going to stay in the .270 to .300 caliber range. I have always been a Winchester & Remington fans so I would like to keep in the family but open to other opinions! Always been a fan of the look of a wood stock over synthetic but cannot complain over the less wait and increased durability.

let me know what everyone thinks.
 
Find an old Ruger 77 that has been hunted with.
Nothing like devastating charm in a hunting partner.
With the amount of yak yak on the Remington products, why
burden yourself?
 
I agree stay far far away from the rem 770 .you can not get far enough away from them .look for a older rem 700 or the ruger would be my top pick .Dutch
 
If you must confine your choice to one of those two, the 783 should be the better rifle. Or at least, not as bad.

I dislike the Remington company but to be fair they have over the years come up with some designs that are deservedly seen as industry benchmarks. The 770 and it's original version, the 710 aren't them. The 783 isn't widely slagged like those two but it isn't setting the gun world on fire, either. If it fits you and the price is competitive it may turn out well for you but you should definitely be comparison shopping with the Marlin XL or XS, the Ruger American, the Savage Axis, and consider whether you want to wait for the new year when Winchester's XPR is due out.
 
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kamlooky said:
With the amount of yak yak on the Remington products, why
burden yourself?
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If you like pain and anguish buy either of these examples yu mentioned.
Me, I would buy a Wby Vanguard with a nice wood stock and be good2go.
Then again it is your taste and your money you will be spending on either of those two Remington Products you mentioned.
Tighter Groups Wby. Vanguard ,
Rob
 
I'd own`a Savage before I owned a 770 . . . and I'm not likely to own a Savage. The 710, 770, and the 783 are all built on the same platform, and to say they are not an enthusiasts rifle is to give them more credit than they deserve. They are the worst North American manufactured rifles currently available. Of the examples I've examined, its all but impossible to cycle the action at the shoulder and the triggers are lawyer proof, which means the rifle will be difficult to shoot well. On more than one, I've seen bolt handles break off when fired factory ammo was being ejected.

The FN manufactured M-70s are excellent, but if you can't afford a new rifle, click on the Tradex banner above, and find yourself an experienced Husqvarna chambered for a cartridge you like. Consider this, those old rifles built on 98 Mauser actions were designed to produce practical accuracy while standing up to hard use under extremely difficult conditions. The bolts can be completely stripped for cleaning without tools, and the two stage triggers are usually fairly crisp although they may exhibit a bit of over travel. If you decide you don't like the trigger, after market single stage adjustable triggers are available from numerous manufacturers. If you're looking for an inexpensive robust hunting rifle, the 98 Mausers answers the question as well as anything. They have been the basis of many thousands of custom rifles, so if you wish to upgrade at sometime in the future, the 98 can be a long term investment, for a similar initial cost as a disposable Remington.

If you insist on purchasing a new low cost rifle, the Weatherby Vanguard is attractive, and is much more rifle for the money, than the 710/770/783.
 
Hi Guys,

I am only biased as those are the gun makers I have used. I am just looking for a hunting rifle that will spend most of its life doing winter target shooting. So here is what you are all saying to look for:

Husqvarna
WBY Vanguard
Parker Hale 270
Ruger 77
Ruger American
98 Mauser
Marlin XL or XS

Truthfully and this is my inexperience and nievity coming out. I would love to buy a rifle new and care for it till I can pass it on and say our family is the only one to own this rifle, but maybe I wait till I have a little more cash and can buy something better.

So here is what I ask. Either Second one of these options or propose a new option for the following use. Deer/Moose Hunting once every two-three years and a lot of winter target shooting in the 250-400 yard range.

I appreciate all your help gents! Let me know what you think!
 
If I was to buy new out of your list, the Vanguard S2 would be it.
Parkerhails are a good solid build and usually one can find them reasonably cheaper
than the rest.
Nothing wrong with a good ole Ruger 77 or a s'perienced Mauser 98.
The Ruger American or the Marlin XL would be my entry door for new.
 
Thanks for the input boys.

Now what about caliber?

I was thinking .300 Winchester Magnum?

Looking to be shooting in the 250-400 yd range?

any thoughts?

kamlooky said:
If I was to buy new out of your list, the Vanguard S2 would be it.
Parkerhails are a good solid build and usually one can find them reasonably cheaper
than the rest.
Nothing wrong with a good ole Ruger 77 or a s'perienced Mauser 98.
The Ruger American or the Marlin XL would be my entry door for new.
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Don't do it man ....search the Remington 710 which is the same as the 770. If you are looking for budget entry level rifle the savage axis or the 11/111 package guns are 10 times the gun for the $. I owned both sold one and still have other .....you guess which one I still have. Or look at the ruger American or the TC venture the vanguard is in the line up as well. Or if Remington is what you want look for a model 700 ADL or CDL new or used. 770/783 just "RUN FOREST RUN!!!!!!"
 
Given the two choices you provided, hands down, the 783. Many of the other posters previously have made a very good point though with trying out the used option. I owned a 783 in 30-06 because I needed another rifle. It shot decent in terms of grouping, maybe even better than average with 165 Nosler BT's. It functioned flawlessly.

The three issues I found were:

1) The Magazine. I'm fairly biased to begin with against the mags, but never got too enamoured with the plasticness of it.
2) The recoil. The gun is rather light and I did not care for the hollowness feel of the buttstock. I considered replacing the stock, but then added the dollar value and discovered I could easily have bought a rifle with a better stock.
3) The resale. I gave it away.

Look for a Marlin (blind mag though), a used Rem 700, Weatherby or Zastava. There are some very sweet deals out there right now - just know your prices. I bought a brand new Zastava in 243 from Trade-Ex and while the action needs some cycling to smooth out, it beat the heck out of my S2 for 300 yard groupings. It is a heavier rifle, so the recoil is similar to an SPS 223. As for my replacement 30-06. I bought a used S1 Vanguard and will be selling it soon as it feels better than the 783, but will be an extra. Have had a Win Alaskan on order now for over a year and expecting it shortly. Should have never gotten rid of my Parker Hale though.
 
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sdow1 said:
Thanks for the input boys.

Now what about caliber?

I was thinking .300 Winchester Magnum?

Looking to be shooting in the 250-400 yd range?

any thoughts?
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What do you want to do with this bang stick??? are you hunting or shooting?? if just a shooting iron try something in the 6mm range. If your hunting critters bigger than deer? then you do well to move into the 30cals?? jmo
 
Boomer said:
I'd own`a Savage before I owned a 770 . . . and I'm not likely to own a Savage. The 710, 770, and the 783 are all built on the same platform, and to say they are not an enthusiasts rifle is to give them more credit than they deserve. They are the worst North American manufactured rifles currently available. Of the examples I've examined, its all but impossible to cycle the action at the shoulder and the triggers are lawyer proof, which means the rifle will be difficult to shoot well. On more than one, I've seen bolt handles break off when fired factory ammo was being ejected.

The FN manufactured M-70s are excellent, but if you can't afford a new rifle, click on the Tradex banner above, and find yourself an experienced Husqvarna chambered for a cartridge you like. Consider this, those old rifles built on 98 Mauser actions were designed to produce practical accuracy while standing up to hard use under extremely difficult conditions. The bolts can be completely stripped for cleaning without tools, and the two stage triggers are usually fairly crisp although they may exhibit a bit of over travel. If you decide you don't like the trigger, after market single stage adjustable triggers are available from numerous manufacturers. If you're looking for an inexpensive robust hunting rifle, the 98 Mausers answers the question as well as anything. They have been the basis of many thousands of custom rifles, so if you wish to upgrade at sometime in the future, the 98 can be a long term investment, for a similar initial cost as a disposable Remington.

If you insist on purchasing a new low cost rifle, the Weatherby Vanguard is attractive, and is much more rifle for the money, than the 710/770/783.
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This.....in spades.^^^

I don't really trust newer Remmy products, but their early stuff(Pre-corporate merger) is great.
Went the Tradeex route and ordered a Husky M96 in 9.3x57 the other day. Should be a fun cast boolit launcher. Gotta be a reloader for this one.
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sdow1 said:
Thanks for the input boys.

Now what about caliber?

I was thinking .300 Winchester Magnum?

Looking to be shooting in the 250-400 yd range?

any thoughts?
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the 300 is a hell of a rifle and it is pricey to shoot with a fair bit of recoil .I would stay with the 270 cal .it will cover every thing from southern yotes and deer all the way to black bears and moose .good to go all the way around Dutch
 
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