Manticore Arms - Tavor products

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Gents,

Not sure if anyone has ever asked you or if you have already tried... I think it would be worthwhile if you could carry Manticore Arms' line of accessories for the Tavor. Their new Overwatch rail/carry handle is sick and their keymod light switch is equally slick. My understanding is they haven't filed or been approved to ship to Canada? Not sure what that means exactly or if its true. I guess approval needs to come from the U.S Dept of Defence? I don't know if they understand how big the market is here for the Tavor. I'd have to think it would be worth their effort get the approval.

Have a great Christmas Wolverines...!

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If they don't have their exportation licensing in place they can't ship up here to Canada. You have to understand the cost and the time involved in doing so, and while you might think that there is a huge market here in Canada for something like this, realistically they most likely sell more in one month in the US that they would sell in a year in Canada. Couple that with the hassles of the licensing, the cost of cross border shipping and all the state dept paperwork required for each and every order shipped (very time consuming) for a lot of smaller companies it really doesn't work out being cost effective or potentially even profitable for them to do so.
 
Grumpy Wolverine said:
If they don't have their exportation licensing in place they can't ship up here to Canada. You have to understand the cost and the time involved in doing so, and while you might think that there is a huge market here in Canada for something like this, realistically they most likely sell more in one month in the US that they would sell in a year in Canada. Couple that with the hassles of the licensing, the cost of cross border shipping and all the state dept paperwork required for each and every order shipped (very time consuming) for a lot of smaller companies it really doesn't work out being cost effective or potentially even profitable for them to do so.
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So..... licensing to a Canadian manufacturer?
 
Honestly, I would not buy the Manticore Overwatch because it is a 2 piece design and ways more than the Gear Head Works equivalant rails. GHW rails are lighter, 1 piece design, and incorperate the GHW USA mounting system which is a nice option to have.

As for Arc Light forends, initailly I was interested, but then apon further consideration I decided against it as the accessory rail slots are proprietary and would be likely in short supply this side of the border.

Some keymod stuff can be hard enough to find, but at least it isn't proprietary. My main draw to the extended arclight forends was the further forward QD sling socket, however my MI XTL from wolverine looks pretty good with the Novenske keymod QD sling socket up front.
 
Tool up?
These are simple cnc machined products,
Scan it with a lazer give the machine material and it cuts.
Send away for finishing cerekote
 
CraigNConnor said:
Tool up?
These are simple cnc machined products,
Scan it with a lazer give the machine material and it cuts.
Send away for finishing cerekote
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At what cost per part? How many do you think the market in Canada is good for on each individual part? What would the company have to pay in royalties or patent fees? Is the cost of material more here in Canada? There are a whole lot of factors that come into play that the end user never sees or hears about.
 
onetwentyish said:
Another site sponsor from Israel that already carries GHW products is already half way through import.
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I received an email back from them just now. Says "due to ITAR regulations they cannot ship directly to Canada. We are just finishing up import approval for a Canadian distributor for 2015." So stand by.

Maybe Wolverine will be able to carry the stuff eventually after all.

Thanks guys.
 
They told me they are partnering up with Zahal and will start shipping these to Canada Q1 2015. Knowing Zahal they will probably jack up the price... :(
 
Bonjour43ma said:
They told me they are partnering up with Zahal and will start shipping these to Canada Q1 2015. Knowing Zahal they will probably jack up the price... :(
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This is the retailer I was referring to, but in all honesty, thier prices are not THAT bad. What does the exchange cost? What does the import/export paperwork cost? What does the shipping to thier distribution point in AB cost? What kind of quantity will they be able to move in Canada?

With the answer to each question, the price goes up.
 
CraigNConnor said:
Tool up?
These are simple cnc machined products,
Scan it with a lazer give the machine material and it cuts.
Send away for finishing cerekote
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Not to sound like an ass, but as a former CNC machinist i take offence at your under appreciation for the trade! Lol. You could always buy a micro CNC and giver a try for yourself? Then you could have all the custom parts you want, just cant sell patented designs. (Not being a smart ass here, if I had the time and money i would!)
 
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