I have an 8400 Montana in 338 WM that is not even close to MOA with a lot of different bullets, but if I do my part it can shoot less than MOA with Barnes vortex 210 TTSX . On a good day I can get MOA with my handloads, but they are work in progress trying to copy the vortex ammo. The gun can outshoot me, the stock is one of the best I have handled and fits me just right. It took some time to find the right bullet and some trigger time to make a habit of holding it right for the most accuracy on the bench, off-hand shooting I find no different than any other rifle I have owned. I never liked the bland grey stock so I gave it a paint job, Overall Kimber's are a very good rifle for the money.
Kimber Montana
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It suppose it would have to be...I just remember it was very soon after they opened and thats when they first brought in the new Kimbers. Okay, only about a decade and a half ago...but does it matter?...come on, I'm 64...memory of the many guns and many hunts since I started is getting a bit blurry.
I haven't looked at a Kimber since though...maybe I should. Apparently some of them can shoot now.
My own standard for lightweight big game hunting rifle accuracy is old-school and based on the KISS system: a two inch group at 100 yards, 10 shots, hot or cold...with pretty much any factory or handloaded ammo...using a 4X scope.
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"a two inch group at 100 yards, 10 shots, hot or cold" is just a rough-and-ready way to see how "bad" a rifle might shoot...I've hunted on very hot days in blazing sun with no shade. After a shot or two, barrels would get nearly too hot to touch and there was just no way to cool them down much...I know this doesn't happen during fall hunts in Canada much but...I want the same light rifle that shoots a 10 shot 2 inch group to shoot sub MOA three shot groups, cooling barrel between shots...and with cheap factory ammo from whomever, not with specially tailored handloads. (I used to reload for many calibers from 22 Hornet to .375 H+H but these days I don't have the time unless I really can't find any cheap factory stuff.)
Or anything with a thin barrel
Are you deliberately missing the point? This is shooting at a range, not while hunting. (I rarely load my hunting rifles with more than three rounds: two in the mag, one in the chamber, mostly to save a bit of weight.) When a rifle can put ten shots into two inches at 100 yds. with factory ammo, its obvious that with a little care it can easily put three shots into less than an inch.
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I see guys at ranges all the time trying to extract target rifle accuracy from light sporters, endlessly experimenting with handloads...fair enough, if you need a hobby thats not a bad one. Three shot groups, five shot groups, 10 shot groups...all are arbitrary standards. Whatever is "accuracy" to you is fine with me.
Gee really? I've shot truck loads (literally) of deer, moose and bears, plus a ton or so of the smaller stuff. In my experience with a 30-06, deer need one, bears need one, sometimes another, moose need one to put them down, then one more. But every now and then, with enough experience, you will be in a situation where you might need more. And in that case, confidence in where your second and third shots will go can help. (“A man can never have too much red wine, too many books, or too much ammunition” ― Rudyard Kipling).
Anyway, you fellows have almost talked me into looking at a Kimber again. Where are the best prices and the most Kimbers in stock in Canada?
Gee really? I've shot truck loads (literally) of deer, moose and bears, plus a ton or so of the smaller stuff. In my experience with a 30-06, deer need one, bears need one, sometimes another, moose need one to put them down, then one more. But every now and then, with enough experience, you will be in a situation where you might need more. And in that case, confidence in where your second and third shots will go can help. (“A man can never have too much red wine, too many books, or too much ammunition” ― Rudyard Kipling).
Anyway, you fellows have almost talked me into looking at a Kimber again. Where are the best prices and the most Kimbers in stock in Canada?
bearkilr
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There's nothing out there that compares in price to an 84L or 84M Montana for a durable lightweight hunting rifle. Any other that comes close has at least one crappy component, be it trigger, stock, no SS, weight. The Montana has it all.
Epps carries quite a few, as does Shooter's Choice in AB. Korth is the distributor in Canada so that makes getting parts and warranty work easier, though I haven't needed it yet.
Just traded for one in 300 win mag before Christmas and finally got to the range for a quick check. The range was actually busy yesterday so I just shot five shots at 100 m after getting on paper to give it a try-out. The first two shots on the right were before adjustment, #3 is the one on the left, adjusted too far and adjusted again to the 2 shots in the middle, I was happy. I was using 180g Win Power Points from CT.
Scoped it comes in at 7'10" or so with a 26 inch barrel.
Here is my Remmy SS BDL 300 mag for comparison, basically 1 pound lighter.
I was wearing a light winter jacket and found that the recoil wasn't bad at all. All in all I am very happy!
Scoped it comes in at 7'10" or so with a 26 inch barrel.
Here is my Remmy SS BDL 300 mag for comparison, basically 1 pound lighter.
I was wearing a light winter jacket and found that the recoil wasn't bad at all. All in all I am very happy!
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I've had experience with everything from Zastava through Rem. Win.to Tikka,Sako all the way to Heym and Steyr.
Never had Kimber but did wanted and still looking to get Mountain Ascent in .308.
Never had trouble with recoil moderate to strong but never had any experience with really strong recoil.
Does anyone had any experience with Kimber Mnt.Asct. I like the one in .308 that weighs under 5lb and comes with muzzle brake that reduces it to some .243 recoil average.
Any thoughts on value(worth or no close to 2.5K),muzzle brake(helps or no) etc.?
Experience with barrel heating(fluted bore helps or no),accuracy,too light to shoot and so on...
I know i am not getting target rifle but if can not get MOA groups from bench rest in perfect condition,how would perform on some long range shots?
Planning to hunt goats and sheep in Rockies with it.
Never had Kimber but did wanted and still looking to get Mountain Ascent in .308.
Never had trouble with recoil moderate to strong but never had any experience with really strong recoil.
Does anyone had any experience with Kimber Mnt.Asct. I like the one in .308 that weighs under 5lb and comes with muzzle brake that reduces it to some .243 recoil average.
Any thoughts on value(worth or no close to 2.5K),muzzle brake(helps or no) etc.?
Experience with barrel heating(fluted bore helps or no),accuracy,too light to shoot and so on...
I know i am not getting target rifle but if can not get MOA groups from bench rest in perfect condition,how would perform on some long range shots?
Planning to hunt goats and sheep in Rockies with it.
For some reason I just couldn't stay away from them. I bought another one. Kimber Montana .308. Brand new from a fellow who changed his mind before shooting it. I put a low power variable Swarovski on it (1.5-4.5x20) in lightweight Talley one piece ring/bases. I wasn't expecting much (see previous post below)...I bought the cheapest box of .308 ammo I could find at Canadian Tire (Federal 150 grain softpoint) and went to the range. The rifle shot 7/8 inch groups. No load development, just discount brand factory ammo right off the shelf. Its a keeper.
pete dobinson
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pete dobinson
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