Reloading Training Courses?

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As I wait paitiently for my RPAL, I have been assembling everything necessary to start reloading. And from all of the posts on here in regards to starting to reload I decided to go with the RCBS Rock Chucker Supreme Deluxe Reloading Kit, Thumbler B tumbler, Inline Fabrication upgrades for it, solid maple work bench for assembly area, Lymans manual, pistol reloading manual, Lee deluxe .38 Special die kit, powder, cases, Berry bullets, Hornady Cowboy etc. Sure I'm missing a ton of things still but once I get everything put together then I will put together the final list. Ah back to the title after talking with a co-worker who had offered to show me how to reload, I determined he is one of the people that you see smoking while reloading on youtube and should be a more of a not what to do type example. Does anyone in the GTA offer a training course?

As always your input is greatly appreciated.

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There was a CGNer who held free intro workshops in the past. Not sure if he's still doing it. I don't know anyone who does training on a professional level. I think they'd have to get some kid of certification/lic if they're making money out of it.
 
I don't think it's regulated to the point where licenses or certificates even exist. As far as I know there isn't an official "certified handloading instructor" title from NRCan or the RCMP. Maybe the CSSA or NFA have something but that would be more of a community self-regulated thing and not a legal title.
My primary concern would be liability. If a new reloader you helped has an accident they can blame you and sick the lawyers on you. They might not win but it still sucks for you big time.

As far as I know many people seek out a local experienced reloader to mentor them somewhat. It's unregulated and more or less on a word of mouth basis. I learned myself from multiple books, hours spent reading articles online (that is reloading articles by experts in the industry, not necessarily web forums), YouTube videos, and chit-chat in the club house at the range I go to.
 
If a charge were made for "teaching" about reloading, the person would be wise to have a liability insurance policy in case someone 'followed his instructions' and had an accident. You can read numerous stories on this and other websites of experienced reloaders using the wrong powder, or other component, or transposing the 34 to 43 and causing all sorts of problems. After the fact it is impossible to prove what WAS in the case when the mishap occurred.
Do it for free and accept a token of the student's appreciation.
 
Alec F said:
If a charge were made for "teaching" about reloading, the person would be wise to have a liability insurance policy in case someone 'followed his instructions' and had an accident. You can read numerous stories on this and other websites of experienced reloaders using the wrong powder, or other component, or transposing the 34 to 43 and causing all sorts of problems. After the fact it is impossible to prove what WAS in the case when the mishap occurred.
Do it for free and accept a token of the student's appreciation.
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Sad but true.
 
Cabela's in Barrie is having an Introduction to Reloading demonstration this Saturday from 1 to 4.Go to Cabela's Canada,click on stores/events at top of page and then go to the Barrie store and click on details.
 
Try contacting The Gun Centre in Kitchener. They may be able to help you.
Their contact info/phone number is on their website:
h ttp://www.theguncentre.ca/
 
Yeah, handloading .38 Spl ain't rocket science. If you can read, are careful and methodical, and capable of thought, you can roll pretty decent target loads for a .38 without much fuss. If you can't read, well, you won't be reading this, so no sweat. I am mechanically challenged, but I have still been able to figure out the sequential steps to a successful handload, how much of what kind of powder to stuff behind which bullet, what the reasons are for different maximum loads for differing bullet shapes and materials, and early on, I developed a healthy respect for my skin and an allergy to pain, so I generally try to avoid extremes. ABC's or Reloading is as good a how to manual as is out there, and your Lyman will give you some good guidance too.

Reloading really is not dangerous. Stupid is dangerous. Careless is even more dangerous. I have been at the range when Bubba was testing handloads, and after having to beat a bolt handle open, proceeded to continue loading, shooting, hammering the bolt, to see what kind of groups he was getting. There be carelessly stupid. Stand well clear!

If you are man enough to measure, re-measure, and to pull the bullet(s) when uncertain, you will be fine.
 
Its funny, because for kicks in my spare time I've been writing a small guide for the new reloader. Basically how to get started by keeping it basic for the new guy and get them rolling.
 
I showed an impatient young man how to reload a couple years ago. He had gotten a bunch of surplus 7.62 NATO rounds and wanted to reload them after initial firing.
I took him through a Lee Loader process, single stage (using various presses), and a turret press for a little more speed. He settled on a single stage press. I gave him a Challenger press, he had purchased a set of dies, 4 lbs of powder, and a thousand primers.
We loaded a couple of dozen rounds and he went on his way. I couldn't get him to slow down, too impatient. I tried to convince him to take his time, but to no avail.
A few weeks later, a friend (a member on CGN) dropped by his house to find him seating primers with a punch (like I did with the Lee Loader) ON HIS CONCRETE FLOOR because the Lee Ram Prime I gave him was too slow for his tastes. Ray left and I got ribbed pretty hard next day at work for teaching this guy to "punch prime" his cartridges.
You have to be careful who you teach, 'cuz you can't fix stupid.
 
It can be tricky if you dont have one or two close friends who reload. I'd be interested in some sort of introductory class as well...
 
I can see liability, Same thing was going on when I used to be in a 4x4 club and I wanted to teach a information session of safe recovery. After too many trailer hitch balls almost went flying and shackles. Or people in winch cable breaking zones.

I think its has to be more of a information general practice tips, then a HOW to.
 
My thought is be careful what you wish for . If licensed instructors start to show up. Then we will be paying another tax before you can say pass me that data book. Very quickly it will become something rich old guys can afford to do. I much prefer the mentoring solutions suggested in previous threads. And agree completely with the cliche stupid can't be fixed. My GST,s worth.
 
DFB Plinker said:
My thought is be careful what you wish for . If licensed instructors start to show up. Then we will be paying another tax before you can say pass me that data book. Very quickly it will become something rich old guys can afford to do. I much prefer the mentoring solutions suggested in previous threads. And agree completely with the cliche stupid can't be fixed. My GST,s worth.
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'Seems these days there are way too many people who don't have the confidence to figure #### out for themselves.
When I started reloading I bought the Lyman 47th edition manual and read it over a few times.
Like ykkid said... "It ain't rocket science".
At the time I didn't know anyone I would have asked to show me how to load. There was this "one" guy at the club, a self professed reloading guru, but... Even not knowing too much I could figure out the dude wasn't all that awsome.
I bought a Dillon 550 and everything else I figured I'd need to load .38, 9mm and .308.
At first I managed to make a few booboo rounds, but these were simply the result of tinkering with the adjustment of my press.

That was about 15 years ago and since I've probably loaded 100000+ rounds without blowing anything up.
I gotta quote ykkid again...
"Reloading really is not dangerous. Stupid is dangerous. Careless is even more dangerous"
 
I'm a pay it forward kind of person. Years ago I bought a complete shotgun reloading set-up in Guelph from a guy who ran a small reloading business.
He took his time and showed me everything I needed to do and pointed me in the right direction to go if I needed further info.
Fast forward to now and I reload rifle and handgun cartridges on singles-stage, turret and progressive presses and have shown a few friends and fellow gun club members how I do things and they are all on their way reloading now.
I may not be the most well equipped or knowledgeable guy, but I can show the basics.
I appreciated mentors growing up and enjoy helping others.
 
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