Sold a 10/22, buyer says it's too inaccurate- RESOVLED! Post 88

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Long story short I sold a 10/22 takedown that I had and wasn't using.
I was its second owner, had only put a 50 round box of shells thru it myself, and had no problem hitting pop can targets and groups at the indoor range with it. The buyer contacted me saying that they had tried mounting a scope on it and tried iron sights as well but couldn't get it to group and thinks the barrel is gone on it.
I asked for some information such as type of ammo, if he had tried cleaning it, if it was off hand or bench tasted or laser sighted in and which stock it was mounted in as I sold it with the factory as well as a underfolding one.
What's the best course of action for me to make sure this fellow can get it shooting or so that I can make it right?
I want to suggest him putting it in the original stock, giving it a quick cleaning to be safe and trying off a rest at 10m to get a base group and then work from there, but don't know if that's too demanding or un realistic?

Any ideas or suggestions would be great, was pretty shocked when I got his message.
 
The barrel on a modern 22LR would not be "gone", let alone a rifle that was released in 2012. Tell him to have it cleaned throughly, make sure everything is tight, try different ammo, and have someone else try it. He changed the stock? He mounted the scope? Type of scope? Rings? Mounted properly? Level of experience? A lot of different variables that can point to user error. If it worked fine when you had it last, it didn't degrade in the mail.
 
Its this type of thing I fear when selling. I assume this sale was not local? If it was I would say best course of action would be to get it back and confirm whether it actually has a problem or if he just has a problem. Worst comes to worst, tell him to return ship it and you will refund him his money asuming it arrives in the same condition it left you previously.

Then test it yourself and if it shoots fine, he eats the return shipping. If not, you owe him in my opinion.

Personally, sounds like buddy is having self created problems if your sure the rifle shot fine while you had it.
 
I'll refrain from laughing at the idea of an accurate 10/22.

The buyer needs to try out different ammunition, as many types as they can get their hands on- .22s can be finicky about what they are fed sometimes, and it can make the difference by inches at 50 metres.

After that, they need to take a look at their scope and mount. If it's a real cheapo scope like a NcStar, that'd be a likely cause. An inexpensive Centerpoint from Canadian Tire is an excellent scope for the price and I've never had an issue with mine. The scope mounts also need to be well secured, possibly with blue locktite just to be sure.

If none of the above, then I would have to say the shooter themself is doing something wrong...
 
Sounds like buyers remorse & he's looking for you to refund him...

There is no way that barrel is shot out... There is a possibility of it being damaged by someone/something, but not shot out.

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Jay
 
The first question that needs to be answered is how much experience the buyer has with firearms, and rim-fire firearms at that.

If he hasn't tried at least a half dozen types of ammo then he needs to be educated on the topic.
 
ShawnC6 said:
Just see what he considers too inaccurate. Could be unreal expectations?
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Yes, this is most likely the problem.
What does the Seller consider "accurate"? Vs. What does the Buyer consider "accurate"?
Is it a pop can at 25yds all day long, or a dime at 50 yds, all day. Big difference!
 
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Find out group size at what distance. But either way he now own's it, so has to deal with it. I've delt with guy's like that. Their whiney and can never be satisified.
 
There are no accuracy guarantees when you sell a gun that is in good working condition, with no damage to it. Buyer can go piss up a rope. I'd have a lot more choice words for him too.
 
I am in with those lacking in sympathy. It's a used gun. If its advertised honestly, then tough cheese. I have sold many guns on that Did not meet my expectations in one way or another. Never had a whiny buyer. Just ones who were happy to get something they wanted for a fair price.

And, yeah, the 10/22 isn't a tack driver. Maybe he's running 25 round mags and heating the thing up too much. Too many variables, but I'd go with Problem Exists Between Trigger And Chair first.
 
Hitzy said:
There are no accuracy guarantees when you sell a gun that is in good working condition, with no damage to it. Buyer can go piss up a rope. I'd have a lot more choice words for him too.
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Exactly. Most guns you buy do not come with an accuracy guarantee. Also its a 10/22 if he wants an accuracy guarantee on a 22lr drop the $2500 on a cooper.
 
I agree. Appease him by checking the group size. Maybe he has mounted the scope incorrectly? If it shot fine for you he may have damaged the firearm and is trying to pull a fast one on you? Or like someone previously commented maybe he wants to back out after it's too late.
Shipped in good condition firing properly and sold = final sale.
 
No way the barrels shot out. Tight mounts, decent optics, different ammo and a lead sled. Not sure how accurate a take down type model is in the first place though. Also .22 would be very susceptible to wind if that's a factor

I shoot with guys that have been putting tens of thousands of rounds down their .22 pistols for the last several decades with no appreciable wear. .22s are very low velocity and they are just lead so you don't really have to worry about powder burn or projectiles wearing anything.

The only thing I would consider you responsible for would be careless cleaning with a steel cleaning rod. If you smashed up the rifling or the crowning you should disclose that. If that doesn't apply I agree that there is no accuracy guarantee.

Cheap ammo and high expectations are probably to blame. It's more of a minute of popcan gun than a bench rest gun. Better ammo (possibly a better shooter) might help
 
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onetwentyish said:
Its this type of thing I fear when selling. I assume this sale was not local? If it was I would say best course of action would be to get it back and confirm whether it actually has a problem or if he just has a problem. Worst comes to worst, tell him to return ship it and you will refund him his money asuming it arrives in the same condition it left you previously.

Then test it yourself and if it shoots fine, he eats the return shipping. If not, you owe him in my opinion.

Personally, sounds like buddy is having self created problems if your sure the rifle shot fine while you had it.
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Yep best thing to do, he return the rifle on his dime, you refund him and you got peace... JP.
 
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