Cops have a lot of power, but most of them in such instances will either contact a superior or the Crown to consult. That is if they are given the room to work, meaning nobody tells them to #### off or any other such anti-social behaviour. Many times, a polite, well put together explanation along with full cooperation, will let you go, if not, it will raise their interest in this case and actually get more info(they too have their sources), which in turn will mean no charge.
SKS trunk gun ammo storage??
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stripperclipper
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I read a couple pages in this thread and couldn't go any farther.
If you think you want a gun in your trunk, put one in there.
Follow the applicable regulations and you're good to go.
If you don't think people should keep guns in their trunk, lobby the government to have the rules changed. Or join the fight to ban guns all together. Or go fist yourself.
As far as the actual original question goes, just rotate your stock. Use that ammo and replace it every so often and you should have nothing to worry about.
If you think you want a gun in your trunk, put one in there.
Follow the applicable regulations and you're good to go.
If you don't think people should keep guns in their trunk, lobby the government to have the rules changed. Or join the fight to ban guns all together. Or go fist yourself.
As far as the actual original question goes, just rotate your stock. Use that ammo and replace it every so often and you should have nothing to worry about.
For theOP
I've had ammo stored at my unheated cabin for years
never had any problems firing it
I keep it in a sealed Plano ammo box with no desiccant pack
6 years no issues that I can see
and ...... the box is locked and hidden outofsight
I've had ammo stored at my unheated cabin for years
never had any problems firing it
I keep it in a sealed Plano ammo box with no desiccant pack
6 years no issues that I can see
and ...... the box is locked and hidden outofsight
I wasn't trolling anyone. Regarding the topics you referenced when implying I am a troll: I didn't know the laws about slingshots........so I asked. I didn't know that asking about a slingshot law to get some information from people who know more than me was trolling. By the way you referenced me being a troll by saying "illegal to carry a slingshot" to imply that was something I said. I never said that at all. That's completely false. I never said it was illegal to carry a slingshot. Why would you imply that?
Also, I asked about bringing a knife over the border to see if guns and knives were treated identically the same because I didn't know. Then once I figured out the answer, I spent quite a bit of time refuting the logic of those with opinions that were incorrect. I didn't know starting a thread to gain knowledge was being a troll.
Lastly, about the sun news article I referenced, I didn't see anything in it about him shooting at a vehicle. If he did do that then that's ridiculous and I would expect him to be charged. But I didn't see that in the printed portion of the article.
Also, I asked about bringing a knife over the border to see if guns and knives were treated identically the same because I didn't know. Then once I figured out the answer, I spent quite a bit of time refuting the logic of those with opinions that were incorrect. I didn't know starting a thread to gain knowledge was being a troll.
Lastly, about the sun news article I referenced, I didn't see anything in it about him shooting at a vehicle. If he did do that then that's ridiculous and I would expect him to be charged. But I didn't see that in the printed portion of the article.
duncansuds
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I just wanted to post on the stupidest derailment thread I have come a cross in a while. Lol. I'm not sure if it's more pathetic I read all the way to this point or if people beat the #### out of this topic this long. Have a good weekend guys. Hahah.
If you took one of these --> Pelican 1750 Long Case
Add some desiccant gels to keep moisture down , Change those every 6 months just to be safe and your moisture issues will all be at bay.
Pad lock the Case with a pair of Keyed padlocks you keep with your car keys for quick access
And bolt it through the bottom of your trunk of the car into the bottom of a drilled out hole in the bottom of the pelican case , of course you need to use a rubber O ring to keep the case sealed from moisture but i've seen people do this exact same thing before for expensive equipment storage in the backs of SUV's.
The Pelican box then cant be stolen , and cant be opened easily either , is pressure regulated , moisture controlled.
Aside from someone stealing the entire vehicle its pretty much safe from common window smashers , and should not have problems either with the elements.
Vehicles are becoming tougher and tougher to hotwire now a days so thats basically the only other last concern with leaving a rifle in the trunk.
But its a 160$ sks and although some dirtbag getting his hands on something like that , if you report it stolen with the vehicle then its not at least going to be against you.
As far as legalities i doubt any cop is going to say a damn thing about a firearm secured in this way and unless they are searching your vehicle for unrelated purposes to begin with they would never know about it anyways .
also as far as ammo , Keep a few mags or full strippers depending on what you use, inserted in the foam and your good to go
PSS: I was also just thinking if you wanted it to double as a portable case you could remove easily. You could secure the bolt used to bolt the pelican case down with a nut outside the case underneath it so it doesn't move if you unbolt the pelican case. and then on the bolt that enters into the pelican case go [ oring > washer >thick cotter pin ] obviously through a predrilled hole in the bolt, and just leave a cutout in the foam all the way down to the bolt/cotter pin.
and if you ever want to remove it pull the cotter pin and wala you can pull out the pelican case from the trunk in minutes. It would still be secure since it needs to be opened in order to be removed but also removed easily while maintaining security to vehicle.
Add some desiccant gels to keep moisture down , Change those every 6 months just to be safe and your moisture issues will all be at bay.
Pad lock the Case with a pair of Keyed padlocks you keep with your car keys for quick access
And bolt it through the bottom of your trunk of the car into the bottom of a drilled out hole in the bottom of the pelican case , of course you need to use a rubber O ring to keep the case sealed from moisture but i've seen people do this exact same thing before for expensive equipment storage in the backs of SUV's.
The Pelican box then cant be stolen , and cant be opened easily either , is pressure regulated , moisture controlled.
Aside from someone stealing the entire vehicle its pretty much safe from common window smashers , and should not have problems either with the elements.
Vehicles are becoming tougher and tougher to hotwire now a days so thats basically the only other last concern with leaving a rifle in the trunk.
But its a 160$ sks and although some dirtbag getting his hands on something like that , if you report it stolen with the vehicle then its not at least going to be against you.
As far as legalities i doubt any cop is going to say a damn thing about a firearm secured in this way and unless they are searching your vehicle for unrelated purposes to begin with they would never know about it anyways .
also as far as ammo , Keep a few mags or full strippers depending on what you use, inserted in the foam and your good to go
PSS: I was also just thinking if you wanted it to double as a portable case you could remove easily. You could secure the bolt used to bolt the pelican case down with a nut outside the case underneath it so it doesn't move if you unbolt the pelican case. and then on the bolt that enters into the pelican case go [ oring > washer >thick cotter pin ] obviously through a predrilled hole in the bolt, and just leave a cutout in the foam all the way down to the bolt/cotter pin.
and if you ever want to remove it pull the cotter pin and wala you can pull out the pelican case from the trunk in minutes. It would still be secure since it needs to be opened in order to be removed but also removed easily while maintaining security to vehicle.
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Pre 1995ish, when no one cared if you left an old .22 under the seat of a truck for when chickens presented themselves while gathering firewood... Ammo was usually left in the glove box year round too. I remember the rimfire ammo was <50% reliable after maybe a few years. If dried out indoors for a couple weeks it would would usually all go bang again. I think now I would use an airtight ammo can with a desiccant pack. Should be GTG regardless of temperature changes if kept sealed up. Ammo to be truly relied upon, like hunting ammo should be treated better than that though, or at least replaced frequently with fresh stuff and the older, temp cycled and possibly wet stuff shot off for plinking.
Mumbles Marble Mouth
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So strong.
For the OP, I keep a round receiver 91/30 Mosin Nagant behind the rear seat of my truck with 40 rounds of 7.62x54r on 5 round charging clips. I normally rotate this ammunition simply by using it. I always keep at least 20 rounds in the truck at all times. I spend about 70% of my time on the logging roads. Sometimes you feel like taking a break from whatever you're doing and firing off some rounds before going back to work. Or course, I clean the gun that night and then the next morning its back in the truck. I have never had rust issues for the gun and I've never had issues with the ammunition not firing. I usually use up 20 rounds with in a month so the ammunition is constantly being rotated.
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onetwentyish
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Its not illegal to keep a firearm in a vehicle so long as its not left visible to anyone looking into the windows.
so im not sure why people are getting all worried sick about the cops i mean seriously are people that scared ####less about being fined for things that aren't even remotely illegal?
Id be more worried about moisture and securing it vs punks smashing in windows than the cops.
duncansuds
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There are still communities like this. Just have to get away from the cities. Too bad we can't all be this way anymore.
lol, post 32 I asked a similar question and then got sucked into the abyss of scenarios and what ifs, I am officially done now, avoid the port of entry if u can
That's what I'd do if I lived in the country or spent more time out of town.
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In this Province , the thing you have to watch for if deciding to carry a rifle or shotgun in your vehicle is the Provinicial Fish and Wildlife laws . Here , you can really only have a long gun in your vehicle if you are a member of a gun club and are transporting , or if you are in possession of a current hunting license . Luckily , for under 40 bucks per year , you can have hunting licenses that cover the whole year . Most people here buy the licenses and this gives them a reason for the firearm to be in the vehicle for hunting purposes if they are ever stopped or questioned . The gun must be unloaded during the day while in the vehicle , and cased /wrapped and unloaded if in the vehicle at night........
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onetwentyish
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I know it is not illegal, and as such I am contemplating putting the SKS in my truck. What many people fear from the sounds of it is the "Guilty Until Prooven Inocent" system Canada has adopted towards firearms owners.
Many cant fathom the idea of having been charged for improper storage and then having to take thier time and money to go to court and fight the charge.
I said it helps being NFA beacause then for $10 extra a year, the NFA will fight your legal case in court up to $5 million worth per year as long as they feel you were following the law. That makes it a little easier to swallow the pill that on the off chance you do need to prove your innocence, you have a large organisation to back you up.
onetwentyish
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fat tony
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The tub style moisture absorbers such as you get from dollarama use Calcium chloride as the active chemical.
You start off with anyhydrous calcium chloride and end up with calcium chloride with h20 absorbed into the structure of the calcium chloride like this:
CaCl2 + nH2O = CaCl2(H2O)4
the n in front of H20 means an excess of H20. The product on the right (liquid) is what is on the bottom of the tub unit.
For the tightwads out there, you could conceivably dewater your Cacl2(H20)4 and reuse it again and again, but I have never bothered with that. It would be more environmentally conscious to do so, but it would be a pita.
This is similar to gypsum, which can be anyhydrous as well as having h20 incorporated into the structure.
Following has a chart of metals compatibility with calcium chloride:
http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/metal-corrosion-resistance-d_491.html
With a car, you are going to have this tub style cacl2 dessicant product. On the bottom you will have the aqueous Cacl2 sloshing around. If you do this, make sure the liquid cannot come into contact with your metal valuables.
The tub cacl2 style air dryers are good for home where things are not going to slosh around.
For a car I would get one of the military grade beads in a bag style dessicants which you can reactivate by baking in an oven periodically.
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