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got about 80 rounds of this #### given to me by a buddy. he sayed he's had it in his ammo crate since the 70's. just wondering what you guys think about it possibly being safe to shoot. also would the 43 possibly be the date. he said he got the ammo crate from his father. here's a couple pics. i'm a bit concerned about them being corrosive and i like my gun so wanna shoot good ammo through it.

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http://militarycartridges.nl/uk/9mm.htm

Canadian manufacture.. my guess is non corrosive

any more knowledgeable (ww2 vets? ) people pls chime in :)

DI: Defence Industry Ltd. Verdun (Québec).
43: year of manufacture.
9 mm calibre cartridge.

DI==Defence Industries...a company completely different and independent from either the Dominion Arsenals ( Govt.) organisation, or the Dominion-CIL private contractor. Set up with assistance from the fore mentioned in 1941-2 to manufacture BOXER primed ammo ( .303, 7.9mm, 9x19mm and possibly .380 and .455 Revolver ammo.. 30 cal is also a possibility...
Production Terminated 1945, but it is surmised the plant was "resurrected" ( either in situ or elsewhere) to make "Covert" ammo (The "MM" series) after WW II...the jury is still out on the dating...Maybe Wikileaks will find some old CIA docs somewhere???


http://forums.gunboards.com/showthread.php?152032-Canadian-quot-MM-quot-Headstamps :

"...The pilot lot of 9mm Para ever made by Dominion Cartridge was headstamped DC 42. With acceptance, the headstamp was changed to DI 42, reflecting the establishment of Defence Industries Ltd. That information from my now-departed friend Jim Houlden, who set up DI, and who kindly provided me with a sample of the trial DC 42 ball ammo, and several different try dummies. Further in 9mm the sequence of magnetic bullets is correct if you add about 10 years to the dates, and the black primer seal becomes correct, as in the 50s, Canadian 9mm had a black seal and not the purple seal they had in the 1940s.
Also, after Dunkirk, there was a plea from England sent out to their colonies asking for help in the emergency development of a non-corrosive 9mm cartridge. I think this went out in 1941 or 1942 - Lew Curtis knows. He saw the declassified document. I find it hard to believe that would have been necessary had Canada already been in full production of non-corrosive 9mm ammo for a year or more...."
 
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Neat, probably worth more to keep them as collector items.

No sense shooting off things they don't make anymore. You could probably easily trade that lot for a few boxes of new 9mm ammo if your looking for shooting ammo.
 
Common, little collector value. Very shootable in that condition and non corrosive as mentioned above.
 
I would go to 'No Collector Value'. Although it is perfectly shootable, it is worth less than standard shooting ammo, due to its age. Shoot it up and keep the brass.
 
i'm convinced. i'm gonna give it to my bro to clean up so i can shoot it. i don't know if i should be concerned to run it through a tumbler for clean up?
 
Huh, funny you should post that pic. I found a few of those when I was reloading last night. They were from '44, I just shrugged, stuffed them and put them aside until I could research the headstamp. I have some empties and a live round made in Wales from the war as well. I'm surprised how ammo from, Brazil, Portugal, Austria, Germany, Spain etc. ends up on the range floor in little old Regina.
Thanks for the info on Defense Industries.
 
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