Storage and visit for a safety check confusion

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I just purchased my first revolver for cowboy action and it has not arrived yet but i am confused.

The safety manuals say Unloaded, with a trigger lock, in a locked case, fine.
Now the confusion, does the locked case, with the unloaded firearm which also has a trigger lock now needs to be inside a locked cabinet or safe?
The manual for storage says trigger lock and then into a locked case but I have been reading tons of threads which suggests different so I would like some advice please?

I have a small storage locked room with a locked cabinet bolted to cement but I dont think the case will fit into that locked cabinet.

Second question, since I will now be getting a handgun will the police just drop in on me to check for proper storage at any given time?
Thanks a lot!
 
Trigger lock, plus locked case for transport. Just a safe for storage in your home.

I'm not an owner of restricted firearms currently. I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong.

Police can't enter your home without a warrant or probable cause.
 
I'd get a metal pistol safe (doesn't have to say "safe" on it or anything, just secure and made of metal - small one will do) and bolt it down, then just put the handgun (unloaded) into it. The small Stack On cabinets are fine, then you don't have to trigger lock the revolver. Under $100 and 100% compliant.
 
Boreas said:
Trigger lock, plus locked case for transport. Just a safe for storage in your home.

I'm not an owner of restricted firearms currently. I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong.

Police can't enter your home without a warrant or probable cause.
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Thanks
 
enefgee said:
I'd get a metal pistol safe (doesn't have to say "safe" on it or anything, just secure and made of metal - small one will do) and bolt it down, then just put the handgun (unloaded) into it. The small Stack On cabinets are fine, then you don't have to trigger lock the revolver. Under $100 and 100% compliant.
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Thank you I was just looking at the stack on ones at Canadian tire and I will bolt it to the cement!
Any info on how the checks are done? is it random?
 
I DO leave mine in their cases while in the safe... At the moment..
I only have 4 firearms, and they all fit in the safe in their cases. But I KNOW that down the road I'll slowly get more and more and then there won't be room. So storing just the firearms in the safe/cabinet, while the Cases are stored in a closet will work.
 
msnively said:
I DO leave mine in their cases while in the safe... At the moment..
I only have 4 firearms, and they all fit in the safe in their cases. But I KNOW that down the road I'll slowly get more and more and then there won't be room. So storing just the firearms in the safe/cabinet, while the Cases are stored in a closet will work.
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I do have one of the cabinets for non restricted but I wanted to have them separate. I am not sure if the case would fit in it though.
Can you tell me about the safety checks please?
Thanks
 
I'm pretty sure that you holding a PAL license grants the police the right to search your home without warrant, provided reasonable notice has been given.
There are conditions to that, as seen in the link below;

http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/f-11.6/page-29.html#h-39

So it would seem if you are a collector, a place of business, or own more than 10 restricted firearms they need only provide reasonable notice.
 
RookieGuy said:
I do have one of the cabinets for non restricted but I wanted to have them separate. I am not sure if the case would fit in it though.
Can you tell me about the safety checks please?
Thanks
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AFAIK, no legit gun owner has had a "safety check" done by the authorities. They need a reason to do so ie. suspicion of illegal activity, threat of home violence, buying too many restricteds at the same time, someone reported you for something etc. Only registered collectors with massive collections have been subjected to inspections and not all of them and not all the time. We all took our R/PALs and we know the rules. You are good to go. Just follow the rule and you have nothing to worry about.
 
Wretched said:
I'm pretty sure that you holding a PAL license grants the police the right to search your home without warrant, provided reasonable notice has been given.
There are conditions to that, as seen in the link below;

http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/f-11.6/page-29.html#h-39

So it would seem if you are a collector, a place of business, or own more than 10 restricted firearms they need only provide reasonable notice.
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That would make sense but I wanted information on the home inspection when they come by to check and how often and do they just drop in anytime?
Do they make an appointment? What if I am at work and they want to come by my home?
Such are the questions thank you.
 
Still alive said:
AFAIK, no legit gun owner has had a "safety check" done by the authorities. They need a reason to do so ie. suspicion of illegal activity, threat of home violence, buying too many restricteds at the same time, someone reported you for something etc. Only registered collectors with massive collections have been subjected to inspections and not all of them and not all the time. We all took our R/PALs and we know the rules. You are good to go. Just follow the rule and you have nothing to worry about.
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That sounds great thanks for the reply but I have 2 friends that told me they came by to check on them.
Its funny as the first person is 73 and has been shooting since he was a kid and the second is ex military and they went to their homes.
 
RookieGuy said:
That sounds great thanks for the reply but I have 2 friends that told me they came by to check on them.
Its funny as the first person is 73 and has been shooting since he was a kid and the second is ex military and they went to their homes.
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There has to be more to the story than that, Toronto or otherwise. With the number of firearm owners in Canada, it would be difficult for LEOs to just drop by for coffee at all our houses!
 
Still alive said:
There has to be more to the story than that, Toronto or otherwise. With the number of firearm owners in Canada, it would be difficult for LEOs to just drop by for coffee at all our houses!
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Well that's what I was told. Anyways I just wanted to know if they will call me first so I can be home.
 
RookieGuy said:
That would make sense but I wanted information on the home inspection when they come by to check and how often and do they just drop in anytime?
Do they make an appointment? What if I am at work and they want to come by my home?
Such are the questions thank you.
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I recall a recent news story where a guy in Toronto was inspected. As I recall, he refused at first - and finally allowed them into his home with 72 hours notice.
Now my memory may be lacking on the exact facts - but I definitely walked away from that article with the impression that they need to provide notice, and that therefore you would be home. If memory serves, the article suggested there were concerns with that gentlemans' recent acquisition and sale of multiple restricted firearms to the extent that they believed he was operating a business out of his home.

Long story short - I don't believe home inspection is anything most people will really ever have to be concerned with.

I've never been inspected, nor has anyone I know personally. Me thinks it's something they really only do if they have concerns about you and/or your firearms.
 
Wretched said:
I'm pretty sure that you holding a PAL license grants the police the right to search your home without warrant, provided reasonable notice has been given.
There are conditions to that, as seen in the link below;

http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/f-11.6/page-29.html#h-39

So it would seem if you are a collector, a place of business, or own more than 10 restricted firearms they need only provide reasonable notice.
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10 firearms, period.
 
RookieGuy said:
Thank you I was just looking at the stack on ones at Canadian tire and I will bolt it to the cement!
Any info on how the checks are done? is it random?
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If you buy a cabinet from CT it's not considered a safe and you must use trigger locks and there is no need for you to keep the pistol In a separate case. If you don't want to use trigger locks then I suggest you invest in a safe. As for inspections, once you reach 10 restricted firearms they can come as they please without a warrant.
 
PitBull1973 said:
If you buy a cabinet from CT it's not considered a safe and you must use trigger locks and there is no need for you to keep the pistol In a separate case. If you don't want to use trigger locks then I suggest you invest in a safe. As for inspections, once you reach 10 restricted firearms they can come as they please without a warrant.
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Good advice its much appreciated thanks!
 
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