Wolf cull poll

Yes, the Government plan is as flawed as those who oppose it.
Spending my tax dollars for a select few to run around or fly around and shoot the alleged problem wolves.
The Deer Cull in the Oak Bay area (suburb of Victoria) is also garnering some unwanted attention as well.
I wonder where I can sign up for the detail.
Tight Groups,
Rob
 
I'm good with it. As it stands the caribou are going to be gone in a decade with no action and it's not like the wintering/calving grounds are going to grow back in that amount of time. Humans couldn't wipe wolves out even when it was acceptable. It shouldn't be an option taken off the table if it gives the caribou a better chance.
 
FLHTCUI just imagine stalking a six point blacktail across someone's professionally manicured garden in the Uplands. Would be very civilized I believe.

As for the 'bou's I don't think it is wolves that are to blame for their decline.
 
conor_90 said:
FLHTCUI just imagine stalking a six point blacktail across someone's professionally manicured garden in the Uplands. Would be very civilized I believe.

As for the 'bou's I don't think it is wolves that are to blame for their decline.
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definitely human habitation effecting it as well. I would more support gov paying for ammo for hunter to hunt wolves more.
 
Predator and prey numbers are linked. If there's a significant decline in prey, the predator will either starve or switch to other prey. Wolves are very adaptable. They also "understand" cost/benefit. If caribou become too rare to make a hunt worth their time and effort they will look for something else. Especially when pups are in the den, they need frequent kills to keep the mother able to produce milk and then to supply the pups themselves. If there is nothing else, the predator numbers will crash and the prey will have a chance to recover. Wolves will take anything from mice to musk ox.

Lack of natural predators has led to the superabundance of whitetail deer. While hunters may be in favour of this, it isn't as good for the ecosystem.
 
nugunner said:
Predator and prey numbers are linked. If there's a significant decline in prey, the predator will either starve or switch to other prey. Wolves are very adaptable. They also "understand" cost/benefit. If caribou become too rare to make a hunt worth their time and effort they will look for something else. Especially when pups are in the den, they need frequent kills to keep the mother able to produce milk and then to supply the pups themselves. If there is nothing else, the predator numbers will crash and the prey will have a chance to recover. Wolves will take anything from mice to musk ox.

Lack of natural predators has led to the superabundance of whitetail deer. While hunters may be in favour of this, it isn't as good for the ecosystem.
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I tend to agree with this statement. Yes human incursion of human activity such as logging and oil industry roads will have an affect on the caribou. Whitetails on the other hand thrive on this especially from farming.
 
surplusshooter said:
definitely human habitation effecting it as well. I would more support gov paying for ammo for hunter to hunt wolves more.
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Since caribou are migrators you need to look at their entire migration route and see what they are coming in contact with ie. Vast stretches of poluted water, contaminated ground, strip mines, global warming thawing out perma frost and glaciers, transforming creeks into raging torrents and solid ground to bottomless quagmires.....all sorts of stuff
 
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ciphery said:
Since caribou are migrators you need to look at their entire migration route and see what they are coming in contact with ie. Vast stretches of poluted water, contaminated ground, strip mines, global warming thawing out perma frost and glaciers, transforming creeks into raging torrents and solid ground to bottomless quagmires.....all sorts of stuff
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Oops, wrong caribou you are talking about. BC woodland caribou do not migrate, except for very short distances, like between alpine and valley bottoms, or short distance change to wintering ground.
For the most part, very light human habitation in the areas talked about in the cull.
As well, the huge areas of continuous parks, from Bowron Park in the NW to Wells Grey Park in the SE, is all prime caribou country with no logging, no snowmobiling, no quading and no human habitation allowed, but the caribou are decreasing in the parks, the same as they are in other areas.
 
dand883 said:
No thanks! the wolf/coyote hybrids we have here are bad enough without throwing full on wolves into the mix, you guys can keep them.
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Fair enough. Had those damn reds circling my cottage for first 2 months last summer... looking for food and to get at the cat and 2 month old pup. I didn't want to shoot it so shot over their head, however kept coming back till I hit one with some birdshot. However Wolfs hate coyote's, so this could prove beneficial. As to Where- places where they have been extirpated, such as southern Ontario. This would also help control moose and deer populations, rooting out weaker specimens, therby creating a stronger bloodline.
I do realize would never happen tho- people are too afraid of wolves, and farmers afraid of them eating their cattle. Just look at Montana- gov tries to bring back faces massive pressure from ranchers.
 
Where I live wolf numbers are through the roof. 3 big packs roam around our town alone. No moose or deer to be seen. Got no problem with a cull. Wondering when they will be doing a coyote cull too...
 
surplusshooter said:
I didn't want to shoot it so shot over their head, however kept coming back till I hit one with some birdshot.
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So you didn't want to "shoot it," but you were fine with crippling it and cause it a protracted death... if you are going to shoot, then shoot to kill. JMO.
 
FLHTCUI said:
Yes, the Government plan is as flawed as those who oppose it.
Spending my tax dollars for a select few to run around or fly around and shoot the alleged problem wolves.
The Deer Cull in the Oak Bay area (suburb of Victoria) is also garnering some unwanted attention as well.
I wonder where I can sign up for the detail.
Tight Groups,
Rob
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Trust me, the cullers don't see it as a holiday, it's work, and it isn't a lot of fun hanging out of a door at low temps in extreme wind all day. A lot of days don't pan out and are for nothing. Your average very good shooter isn't even close to up to the task of culling efficiently and quickly, the good guys are averaging a two rounds a wolf, from a moving platform on a moving target. Where they are culling, it makes sense and is justified, unless we want to see a species gone forever from ranges they've inhabited for millenia. Plus, this poll means little the culls are already running.
 
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