NEW or USED on EE, which is the BETTER BUY???
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Right now I am looking for a plain Ruger 10/22 just for a build and I can get one from Cabelas for $357 to my door. On the EE there is every kind of Bubba 10/22 imaginable and each seller thinks they have the most desireable build when really most of them are what they like. For the most part I don't find anyones "custom" build to be my taste. Besides its more fun to build yourself so why would you spend big bucks buying one that someone else had fun building. Seems the average price is $350-$400 and I am thinking no more than $275 or I may as well buy new
I usually buy used but that's because I like old stuff. I ask questions if I'm unsure and if the answers are iffy I walk.
When I sell I am upfront about problems and I am realistic about what things are worth. Just do your research on values and ignore those that are overpriced.
When I sell I am upfront about problems and I am realistic about what things are worth. Just do your research on values and ignore those that are overpriced.
The whole 'no lowballers' issue is somewhat relevant. I do have a story about that. I had a JM stamped Marlin 1895 in 45-70 that I was selling asking price was $750. One guy sent me a message that he found one new in box that a guy was willing to sell him for $300, can he buy mine for $150. I told him to go buy the other one. He came back at $200, so I told him the same thing. He came back again at $250, and I told him that the lowest I'd go was $725, and any offer less than that from here on every offer less that that $725 would cause the price to rise $50 for him for each offer. That was the last I heard from him.
As for 10-22s, if it has an action from dlask, it's probably worth a bit extra.
As for 10-22s, if it has an action from dlask, it's probably worth a bit extra.
It's not just discontinued guns that are better purchased used rather than new. It may be a cliché, but the truth is that in some cases, they don't make them like they used to. Examples that come to mind are Marlin levers and just about any Rem 700. If I were in the market for one of those, I'd much prefer a 10-year old gun, or even older, to a brand new one. There are many other guns in which the quality of wood in the stocks has declined hugely over the years, and if a nice piece of walnut is important to you then you will be looking at the old ones.
My old Sako A-series guns were replaced in the new market by the "improved" model 75's, which in turn were "upgraded" into model 85's. I guarantee that anyone who still owns the old guns laughs out loud when they read on here about the wonderful quality of current Sakos.
My old Sako A-series guns were replaced in the new market by the "improved" model 75's, which in turn were "upgraded" into model 85's. I guarantee that anyone who still owns the old guns laughs out loud when they read on here about the wonderful quality of current Sakos.
I wasn't going to comment further but on reading other members thoughts on the EE prices, and I thought it was just me, sellers should keep in mind who has the most flexability, the member with the gun or the member with the CASH???? The phrase NO LOWBALLERS perhaps someone can (explain or define) when a lower offer than the asking PRICE becomes a lowball offer??? I don't bother with these adds.
The issue of good clear pics is a must when buying on here.
Enjoy.
The issue of good clear pics is a must when buying on here.
Enjoy.
In an earlier life I spent 15 years in retail sales. Although there is no official definition of the term, a "low-ball" was what we called an offer which was ridiculously, impossibly low...too low to take seriously or to bother responding to. On today's EE, the term seems to mean that when a seller lists a ridiculously, impossibly high price, offering or suggesting that he take any less is the height of bad manners and will be ridiculed and/or ignored.
Over 95% of the listings never sell at the posted prices. From just too high priced to the insane! Simply too many dreamers trying their luck on here.
It annoying looking at all the overprices stuff here. There should be some checks and balances ...to eliminate the ridiculous and insane.
It annoying looking at all the overprices stuff here. There should be some checks and balances ...to eliminate the ridiculous and insane.
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It's pretty insane when most of the time I can find a gun new for less than what it is on the EE. Rare to find a deal indeed, but its possible, just very rare. I ve never had to use 'btt' once when I sell a gun. Put it on there for a fair price and it will sell fast.
I'm not defending the practice of overpricing used guns, but I will play devil's advocate here for a moment. There are people on this forum who, if they saw an ad for a Holland & Holland Imperial Grade SxS double rifle in pristine condition for $200, would then PM the seller and offer $100 shipped. It doesn't matter how good the price, they want to dicker. This practice forces sellers to "pad" their asking prices a bit, to make room for the bull%^&t which is sure to ensue when they post a WTS ad.
Oddly enough, it's usually these same buyers who will then experience problems with their banks and require 3 days to send an EMT, or will agree to a price and then start re-negotiating the next day, or find some other way to drive the seller insane.
Just as ridiculous low offers are referred to as "low-balls", retailers have a name for these buyers as well; they're called "flakes".
Oddly enough, it's usually these same buyers who will then experience problems with their banks and require 3 days to send an EMT, or will agree to a price and then start re-negotiating the next day, or find some other way to drive the seller insane.
Just as ridiculous low offers are referred to as "low-balls", retailers have a name for these buyers as well; they're called "flakes".
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In this day and age, nobody wants to lose a buck on anything they buy new and wind up selling. The internet is a great resource for both buyers and sellers alike. If the seller has indicated "obo" or "offers considered" and you feel the price is too high, make an offer. Don't insult someone with a ridiculous offer, just because you saw a similar item $50 lower in the U.S.
When a person indicates "no lowballers", we all know what that means. Just move along.
When a person indicates "no lowballers", we all know what that means. Just move along.
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Every now and then you will run into something like a 54 Anschutz for about $1,000- try to find one of those new for that kind of money!
Or a 310 C.I.L. ( 64 Annie) for $300 - no brainers, both of them.
Cat
Or a 310 C.I.L. ( 64 Annie) for $300 - no brainers, both of them.
Cat
My guess is that a lot of the so called overpriced items are there solely because someone bought a gun without running it past the significant other, and because of no return policies, they cannot return them. So, they advertise the gun for a lot more than it's worth so they can keep it while they're saying that they're trying to sell it... At least till the heat dies down...
every year the owner of a shop tries to give me a 10-22......I refuse to own one and he knows that, I think he knows that he is safe in offering it to me knowing that I will always turn my head up at it and walk away. I don't know if it is the rifle that bugs me or the people who need to own one and then rebuild it every time some new screw it on gadget hits the market, why couldn't ruger just make a quality gun in the first place rather then a piece of junk that won't shoot out of the box and require another thousand bucks worth of upgrades to be a rifle????
If you want one that bad Bill, hold out and pay the new price for one that is 15 years old, the new ones aren't worth much more then 64.oo on the shelf at the store add in the mark-up to keep the lights on..........
If you want one that bad Bill, hold out and pay the new price for one that is 15 years old, the new ones aren't worth much more then 64.oo on the shelf at the store add in the mark-up to keep the lights on..........
I'm not sure about that. The prices are set by the market. If people gobble up $2000 AR-180Bs as fast as they are listed, then that is what AR-180Bs are 'worth'. Maybe not to you, maybe not to me, but to someone.
