358 Norma Magnum

Johnn Peterson said:
;)Me too. What ones do you have? Custom jobs or original manufacturer? Here are mine.



- Top, a model 1651 Husqvarna
- Below, a model 68DL Schultz & Larsen.
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Johnn, I never get tired of seeing those pictures !
This might never happen but if you ever feel like you have one too many 358 Normas I could sure make room for that Husky...
 
Johnn Peterson said:
Something a little different with two of the boxes of factory loads, in that two appear to be loaded with a form of Norma's dual core bullets which I believe are nickel clad/jacketes, much like the factory 308NM.
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Actually Johnn, if you put a magnet to those bullets you will find they are actually mild steel. Norma made a lot of those bullets in the past, as did RWS.

I have quite a few of them in several diameters for reloading.

Regards, Dave.
 
Kevan said:
Johnn, I never get tired of seeing those pictures !
This might never happen but if you ever feel like you have one too many 358 Normas I could sure make room for that Husky...
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There is a gentleman who expressed a definate interest in it when he found out Ted had sold it to me so he should get 1st kick at the cat. IF I do decide to definately put it up for 'adoption', I'd first like to use it at least once in the field. Another reason I haven't parted with it, as much as I'm a Schultz & Larsen fan, I have to admit when putting them to shoulder, the Husqvarna 'feels' a little better. Actually, a few days ago, I did send a PM to the other interested party but haven't heard back yet.
 
Eagleye said:
Actually Johnn, if you put a magnet to those bullets you will find they are actually mild steel. Norma made a lot of those bullets in the past, as did RWS.

I have quite a few of them in several diameters for reloading.

Regards, Dave.
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Interesting. I didn't realise that. In my first 308NM, prior to getting into reloading, I used them extensively and I would've thought if they were mild steel, you'd soon see signs of oxidation or rust, even from just repeatedly handling them. :redface:Today, I'm a day late and a buck short. I've just checked in my old Norma reloading manual and there's a page describing the "Tri-Clad" bullets we speak of. If you're interested, PM me your e-mail address and I'll scan the page and send it to you. Basically they bond/weld to each side of a steel block a slab of alloy that is 90% copper and 10% nickel and then heated white hot and rolled. ;)What the h***, I've got time. This is the old Norma reloading manual I speak of.



and this is the page describing the Tri-Clading and the process involved.



In my reloading room, I have an old Norma Bullet display chart front & center above the little window, amongst a few others as well, that I bought years ago, just for the decore of the room and I was ammazed at how many bullets have that Tri-Clading.



;)How's that Dave?
 
I have a Ruger Number 1 custom and a brand new Winchester Model 70 Extreme Weather Stainless Steel in a Boyds Jacaranda stock. Love them both. The Ruger is wearing a Leup VXIII 1.75 x 6 and the Win a Leup VXIII 2.5 x 8. I haven't had the pleasure of blowing something away with them yet but will keep on hunting and see what happens.
 
Johnn,

These are actually Silver Bullets, and should be saved for special occasions, like a lycanthrope hunt :D

Seriously, Tri-Clad bullets can also be found copper coated. All are attracted by magnets.
 
Baribal said:
Johnn,

These are actually Silver Bullets, and should be saved for special occasions, like a lycanthrope hunt :D

Seriously, Tri-Clad bullets can also be found copper coated. All are attracted by magnets.
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From that info I posted from my old Norma manual it seems like quite an involved process to make jacket material. To me anyway. Do you know if it is still a material and process still used? Costly and harser to produce compared to other jacket materials used I would think.
 
220Swifty said:
How dimensionally different is the Norma mag from the win mag family? This thread has wheels turning.
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The two belted Norma Magnum are very dimensionally similar to the 7mm RM and the .338 WM cases, but they are more of a very "Improved" version of the those two.
 
Baribal said:
The two belted Norma Magnum are very dimensionally similar to the 7mm RM and the .338 WM cases, but they are more of a very "Improved" version of the those two.
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Agree with this, Baribal. In checking capacity of the 308 Norma Mag [Norma Case] vs the 300 Win Mag [Win Case], using H870 powder, there was exactly 1.7 grains average difference.

This despite the Winchester case being somewhat longer to the shoulder, and longer overall. The 7mm Mag and the 338 Mag were about 8 & 6 grains less, respectively.

I still favor the 308 Norma over the other "big" 30's. The 358 Norma is just more of a good thing!!

Regards, Dave.
 
Adamy said:
It's superb caliber,along 8x68S one of best calibers for sure,
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yes the 8x68s another great caliber that is great and like the 358nm will work perfectly here but the marketing hype decided another way.

if only one gunwriter had decided another way and american gun builder followed the trend that will be end of the story but the 338 wim mag came ...
 
hoytcanon said:
Johnn... that room looks like that is where Bilbo Baggins does his reloading...
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??:confused:Enlighten me. My 'facilities' and set-up have served me well for years. As firearms have been added to the 'Harem' things have become a little crowded but still continues to serve the purpose well. Anyway, :confused:a problem with my set-up in your estimation??
 
Baribal said:
The two belted Norma Magnum are very dimensionally similar to the 7mm RM and the .338 WM cases, but they are more of a very "Improved" version of the those two.
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Thanks for the reply.

The search for parts might commence this spring. The thought of a 358 Norma popped in my head last night. I opened CGN to do some musing about it, and here was this thread. A sign from god?
 
I have had a number of 358 Normas over the years. Got my first one, a Husqvarna, in 1969 while living in Kirkland Lake, Ontario. Everyone there joked about "that elephant gun." There was no joking when they saw it shoot, however. Since then I have had several rifles rebarreled to the Nine Norma, as well as getting a few more Husqvarnas.

The 358 is a bit intimidating to shoot at first, especially in the light Husqvarna rfiles, but you will get used to it. Be sure to try the 250 gr Speer spitzer ahead of 67.5 gr of IMR 4895. That load has been very accurate in every rifle I have shot it in....and 250 gr at 2800 fps is quite devastating on big game.

Ted
 
Why not? said:
I have had a number of 358 Normas over the years. Got my first one, a Husqvarna, in 1969 while living in Kirkland Lake, Ontario. Everyone there joked about "that elephant gun." There was no joking when they saw it shoot, however. Since then I have had several rifles rebarreled to the Nine Norma, as well as getting a few more Husqvarnas.

The 358 is a bit intimidating to shoot at first, especially in the light Husqvarna rfiles, but you will get used to it. Be sure to try the 250 gr Speer spitzer ahead of 67.5 gr of IMR 4895. That load has been very accurate in every rifle I have shot it in....and 250 gr at 2800 fps is quite devastating on big game.
Ted
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Looking forward to my first encounter with Mr. Moose, using the 358NM. :)Thanks Ted, for your input and opinion.
 
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