9mm Pistol Mag Carbine Options (Non-Restricted)

Dexter Morgan said:
It's a weird Ontario hunting law.
You can't hunt in most of Southern Ontario with any projectile that is larger than .275" diameter, which eliminates the 9mm.

Of course it makes no sense whatsoever, but that's how it is.
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Yeah, typical SW Ontario bureaucratic B.S. : Where else could you be the mayor of a city (Joe Fontanna), get busted for embezzling, serve time, & still collect your full pension from the government of over $150000 a year?

I'm thinking a pistol mag fed .223 like yours is my answer. I'm sure 95% of my hunting in the near future will be in this area.

Thanks gang. THIS FORUM RULES!
 
Dexter Morgan said:
It's a weird Ontario hunting law.
You can't hunt in most of Southern Ontario with any projectile that is larger than .275" diameter, which eliminates the 9mm.

Of course it makes no sense whatsoever, but that's how it is.
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Yeah, typical SW Ontario bureaucratic B.S. : Where else could you be the mayor of a city (Joe Fontanna), get busted for embezzling, serve time, & still collect your full pension from the government of over $150000 a year?

I'm thinking a pistol mag fed .223 like yours is my answer. I'm sure 95% of my hunting in the near future will be in this area.

Thanks gang. THIS FORUM RULES!
 
9mm for coyotes? How close do you think you'll be getting? Not really the best choice for reaching out a couple hundred meters or so.
 
Dexter Morgan said:
XCR is just way too big and heavy for hunting.

I can't even imagine carrying one around all day in the woods.

Not to mention the ridiculous price-tag.
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I disagree about the cost issue and the weigh it under 8lbs, quality bolt guns cost more than the xcr L, However I would tend to go with something in a 308 minimum for my hunting needs
 
Dexter Morgan said:
XCR is just way too big and heavy for hunting.

I can't even imagine carrying one around all day in the woods.

Not to mention the ridiculous price-tag.
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Ya its a bit hefty but hes a big lad.Besides there isnt enough woods where hes gonna be hunting to walk all day anyway.It will be calling from a stationary position mostly.If he buys a 6.8spc conversion it will make a good deer rifle.
 
When you think about it, it really doesn't make any sense. 270 Ok but not a 9mm. That decision must have came form some one really bright. Any ways 223 semi auto is a very good choice. It will give you the advantage of a semi auto (quick repeated shots), bigger magazine, decent range and cheap ammo. I use one and also a 270 BLR but the latter might not have the capacity that you're looking for.
 
Lawrence D said:
When you think about it, it really doesn't make any sense. 270 Ok but not a 9mm. That decision must have came form some one really bright. Any ways 223 semi auto is a very good choice. It will give you the advantage of a semi auto (quick repeated shots), bigger magazine, decent range and cheap ammo. I use one and also a 270 BLR but the latter might not have the capacity that you're looking for.
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Not saying this is right - it may not be as I've not tried to go hunting with my JR Carbine (9mm) just yet - but in the "old" days it used to go by caliber for small game hunting - i.e. "not greater than .275 caliber" was the exact as I recall, but that restriction was only in force when hunting in an area with an open season for moose/bear/deer/elk etc UNLESS the hunter was in possession of a valid licence for one of the open season big game animals.

Having spotted this thread, I went into my 2014/2015 Ontario Hunting regs to confirm this, and the MNRF appears to have pulled a switch - I could no longer find any reference to a max caliber restriction for small game hunting, but there is now a max "energy limit" of 400 ft lbs muzzle energy during an open season for Deer/Bear/Moose etc. unless the hunter has a valid tag/licence for that particular big game animal in season. At the bottom of page 24 of the 2014/2015 Hunter Regulation handbook, please check/confirm for yourself. The way it reads, it would be perfectly legal (by Provincial statute, not including any local/regional laws) to use anything up to and including 50 BMG rounds for groundhogs (although at $10 or more per shot it wouldn't be exactly practical - and wouldn't leave much) as long as it wasn't in a period where deer/bear/moose/elk could legally be hunted with a rifle.

For what its worth - but please confirm for your own satisfaction on the page noted in Ontario Hunting Regs. You can download a .pdf version here: http://www.ontario.ca/document/2014-ontario-hunting-regulations-summary As noted the information is at the bottom of page 24 beneath the table of firearms summaries.

OldNewGuy
 
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Click on this link;

http://files.ontario.ca/environment-and-energy/fish-and-wildlife/239852.pdf

You will find this quote on page 79;

A person hunting small game may not carry or use a rifle of greater calibre than a .275-calibre rifle, except a muzzle- loading gun, in the geographic areas of Brant, Chatham-Kent, Durham, Elgin, Essex, Haldimand, Halton, Hamilton, Huron, Lambton, Middlesex, Niagara, Norfolk, Northumberland, Oxford, Peel, Perth, Toronto, Waterloo, Wellington or York.
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Dexter Morgan said:
XCR is just way too big and heavy for hunting.

I can't even imagine carrying one around all day in the woods.

Not to mention the ridiculous price-tag.
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Actually believe it or not my XCR-M is lighter than my bolt gun I use for hunting. Weighed my bolt gun the other day kitted out the way I hunt and it was 15lbs.

The XCR feels like a feather in comparison :p
 
Weighed my bolt gun the other day kitted out the way I hunt and it was 15lbs.
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How do you prepare for hunting season?
Like this guy does?
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Black_Valkyrie said:
Keltec sub 2k. I've got one. It's enjoyable. Zero issues. Get the unit that takes glock mags.
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This what I have and it fits my needs very well. It has been upgraded in every possible way (all done by previous owners). Red Lion Precision fore stock, AR sites, Tactcool tube cover, stock extension and I put a Meprolight m21 red dot on it. It's the Glock mag version. I like it it does what it is supposed to do.
 
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