XCR Are they worth the money?
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I wasn't comparing the two. I just knew he had a 450 so was asking about it. I'd like to see what size of beast that thing could knock down. I imagine it's impressive to say the least.
Lol I have rifles for hunting. It will not be the main objective. That is just a bonus if I can with it. Coyotes would be the only thing I would use it for. I plain on running the s*&* out of whatever I get. It will be getting HOT. I'm not going for sub moa. That's what bolt guns are for. I want to know if it can take it or not. It will be getting well used.
The only drawback to the x39 that exists with every platform that uses stanag type mags is the mag itself. Since our current magazine laws really make this a non issue people don't really think about it. In the USA this issue becomes very clear and the rifles become unreliable using full capacity mags.
I really would like a non restricted semi 7.62x39 that uses AK mags.
Now back on topic
I really would like a non restricted semi 7.62x39 that uses AK mags.
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If you go for the light barrel like I have get an angled grip or something if you are planning on running 100's of rounds through in a session. it will get HOT.
Accuracy on the 5.56 keymod is like stated before by other posters. If I can hit a "Zombie head" at 100-200 yards I am a happy camper as this is what the rifle is designed for. It is not set up as a DMR.
Here is what you will get for your cash if you are going for the 5.56 version:
Accuracy on the 5.56 keymod is like stated before by other posters. If I can hit a "Zombie head" at 100-200 yards I am a happy camper as this is what the rifle is designed for. It is not set up as a DMR.
Here is what you will get for your cash if you are going for the 5.56 version:
". I would like a none bias opinions on the xcr "
Wish I could help, but I'm far too bias.
I use my XCR in x39 for deer, plinking, targets, blasting, and even 630 yard gong-banging.
I've broken mine twice, for a total of $96 in parts, that were in my hands within the week.
I can shoot 1.7" groups with Federal Fusion, and I'll take the shot on deer out to a little over 200yd.
My round count is 13,000+ of corrosive surplus, ~100 rounds of commercial.
The gun is unbalanced and on the heavier side, but a good sling is the fix.
It's not the most accurate in it's class, but it's not a bench rifle anyways, it's a battle rifle.
Is it worth it? Mine was.
Wish I could help, but I'm far too bias.
I use my XCR in x39 for deer, plinking, targets, blasting, and even 630 yard gong-banging.
I've broken mine twice, for a total of $96 in parts, that were in my hands within the week.
I can shoot 1.7" groups with Federal Fusion, and I'll take the shot on deer out to a little over 200yd.
My round count is 13,000+ of corrosive surplus, ~100 rounds of commercial.
The gun is unbalanced and on the heavier side, but a good sling is the fix.
It's not the most accurate in it's class, but it's not a bench rifle anyways, it's a battle rifle.
Is it worth it? Mine was.
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I like my XCR-L in 7.62x39 but I am not 100% sure it was worth it. It's a nice rifle that looks cool and non-restricted status is a bonus. Accuracy is good. Reliability is good but one part on it did break and had to get replaced (under warranty). The price is pretty high, considering.
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Well to answer whether it's worth the money or not....I guess it has to be. Out of the choices that are not above your price range it's really the only option. I don't believe any of the less expensive options would fair well with the plan of "running the s*&* out of" it. I mean other than an AR...what else is there that's in or below that price range and as reliable as the XCR right now? I'd look for a 2013 or newer XCR-L with a heavy barrel.
now to me, that is unacceptable at the price point. I have/had other rifles and firearms in the same price range (HK, swiss, B&T and even kel tec) and none of them had even one failure that was not caused by myself and no parts breakage.
Well in all fairness he does have one of the older models and he did shoot over 13,000 rounds through it... so far. I don't think that would be a deal breaker for most. Especially considering some of the improvements that have been made.
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It's the only other intermediate cartridged black rifle that is NR. I guess there is that fame now, bit unproven though. If the swiss wasn't prohib that is my pick, but with that debacle I can't recommend it, well because no one can buy one anymore. And G36 are rarer than a teenage virgin and cost an arm and a leg if you do find one, if the guy was looking at the 7.62x39 guns the vz58 is a solid choice, I really liked my cz858. But that's an irons only sort of deal, because I couldn't really find an optics setup that worked properly with it.
My rambling aside as far as the nr black rifles go your choices are tavor or xcr. And between those two, the tavor is my pick... Or wait and see what happens with the HK243
, that's what I'm doing atm. The t97 is a nonentity as far as i am concerned, well any norinco for that matter.Keep in mind that I know nothing of the AR15 but there are 2 other things on the XCR which make me, as a noob, question it's legitimacy as a battle weapon:
1) The quick release lever that separates the upper from the lower. To me it would be easy to accidentally catch on something spilling the bolt carrier group into the dirt?
2) The adjustable gas block getting blown down range if it get's left in the wrong position. I know it should be set it and forget it but... I was experimenting with gas settings to keep the brass from being thrown into the next timezone and made that mistake. Luckily I found it about 30 yards downrange but for a soldier that would suck. Maybe the piston AR's are the same way?
My thoughts:
1) The lever (at least on mine) is fairly stiff and would take a lot to accidentally engage it to open the upper on its hinge. Let's say that the stars align and it actually does happen, the rifle would need to be fairly upside down for the bolt to come out and you have to slightly depress the lever to get it to fall out anyway (again only going by my rifle)
2) Soldiers would set the gas setting to whatever ammo they are issued and leave it alone. I can not see them messing with it on the battlefield.
if you can believe the internet, soldiers who used these during the SOCOM rifle bid (what the XCR was built for) really loved the rifle. It performed very well but they got knocked out due to the late arrival of blank fire adapters.
It's the only other intermediate cartridged black rifle that is NR. I guess there is that fame now, bit unproven though. If the swiss wasn't prohib that is my pick, but with that debacle I can't recommend it, well because no one can buy one anymore. And G36 are rarer than a teenage virgin and cost an arm and a leg if you do find one, if the guy was looking at the 7.62x39 guns the vz58 is a solid choice, I really liked my cz858. But that's an irons only sort of deal, because I couldn't really find an optics setup that worked properly with it.
My rambling aside as far as the nr black rifles go your choices are tavor or xcr. And between those two, the tavor is my pick... Or wait and see what happens with the HK243
I do agree on the Norinco. They don't pay full wage. I will never pay retail price. I did not know about the HK243. The thing is I have been waiting to see what the status is on a lot of guns, but I keep hearing that the RCMP have had the guns for a year, two and even three years with no answer. My thought is on it that they don't want to allow any more "black rifle" NR In the country.
