Outfitters fined $20,000 for over possession in Saskatchewan

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ARE OUTFITTERS TREATED EQUALLY OR DO THEY RECEIVE SPECIAL PRIVILEGES?

http://www.thestarphoenix.com/technology/Outfitting+company+fined/10825082/story.html

After waking up and reading the local news paper I was completely disgusted with our local Saskatchewan Environment and Resource Management (S.E.R.M) officers, How many more things can these people screw up?
Now granted the news papers don't completely tell the full story but how can these individuals get away with a small $20,000 dollar fine and NOT loose there outfitters allocation?

Lets think about this, if it were you or I, we would have all privileges taken away, possibly your truck and at the very least pay a fine to a charitable contribution of the courts choice.

These are individuals that are charging $5K U.S per guy for a weeks worth of hunting and they consider this there business. The question becomes, what else have they done that SERM or federal enforcement not know about?


Is the Outfitters association promoting this type of practice or is S.E.R.M?



Let the doggy pile begin!!
 
:confused::confused::confused: SERM is not to blame, it is the judicial system (courts) that decide the conclusion and penalty of a trial or guilty plea. SERM do not write or administrate the laws either, they are primarily enforcement and advisers to the laws, written by bureaucrats, lawyers and politicians.
 
It's a fair opinion that fines/ penalties should be steeper, but at the same time 20 grand is a pretty good chunk of cash when you consider the slim margins most outfitters run on (don't know about this one in particular). Hard to know what "should" be handed out without knowing the full story.
 
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:confused::confused::confused: SERM is not to blame, it is the judicial system (courts) that decide the conclusion and penalty of a trial or guilty plea. SERM do not write or administrate the laws either, they are primarily enforcement and advisers to the laws, written by bureaucrats, lawyers and politicians.
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I agree. You can lay all the charges you want. It is the court that hands out the penalty.
 
$20000 is a steep fine in the context on Canadian courts. Without knowing the context of the other prohibitions / penalties (if there were any) it is a stiffer hit than most criminal offences never mind offences under game and fish statutes.
 
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FGR said:
It's a fair opinion that fines/ penalties should be steeper, but at the same time 20 grand is a pretty good chunk of cash when you consider the slim margins most outfitters run on (don't know about this one in particular). Hard to know what "should" be handed out without knowing the full story.
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Margins LOL
Must be fantastic margins in BC when you look at how much the GOABC shovels to the BC Liberals. My bet is the same margins apply for greasy outfitters no matter what province.
20 grand is just a cost of doing shady business.
Outfitters who break the law should face personal hunting suspensions, fines and revocation of business lisences period.
 
Some cheap shots at SERM here. Blame the government Sask voters elected for chronic cuts budgets and that gives excessive influence to every vested interest, (SGI, commercialization and Agriculture) and ignores science-based management. SERM employees that I know work hard to do a good job.

I do agree that violaters like these, convicted in Alberta of wasting game according to an Alberta Outdoorsman post , should lose their licence to operate.

Blame the politicians and the plea bargaining prosecutors for the lack of decisive penalties.
 
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IN BC, they have a license to go over and do what they want without fear of this happening, the government endorsed them to do it.
 
I was shocked to see this , as I know the owners personally, and have actually hunted with them. They were always very careful to ensure that the bag limits were not not exceeded, and that everyone was properly licenced, and complied with the hunting regulations. Based on my experiences, I would suspect poor record keeping rather than intentionally violating the regulations.
 
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I was shocked to see this , as I know the owners personally, and have actually hunted with them. They were always very careful to ensure that the bag limits were not not exceeded, and that everyone was properly licenced, and complied with the hunting regulations. Based on my experiences, I would suspect poor record keeping rather than intentionally violating the regulations.
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My family runs an accounting firm... can confirm 99% of the time poor records is the reason legit small businesses get in big trouble...
 
"A Saskatoon outfitting company has been fined $20,000 for failing to keep proper records of its clients and possessing more wildlife carcasses than allowed."

This is what I read in the article...The way some of you are going on you must know a lot more then has been reported...Or just dislike outfitting in general.

How many of you fella's would like to have a visit from the auditor...An audit of anything in your daily life and business...Good luck...There are so many regulations to adhere to they will get you for something...A $20,000 fine seems like an extreme penalty for not keeping track of all the red tape involved with hunting ducks.. Seems to me the powers that be are trying to take the fun outta everything these days.
 
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