Favourite Non Restricted Black Rifle under 1000

Daver_II said:
I owned a mini-14 in a Sparta... Meh. Sold it.
I owned a SU-16 with AR stock.... Liked it, but sold it.
I own a FTU T97. I like it, but the FTU makes it over a grand.... But I traded... So.... Winner?
I owned a VZ 58... Too long. And limited to 5rounds of 7.62... Sold it.
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Ya i wasn't a huge fan of the mini in the sparta stock, but that gun in a butler creek folder is very fun, small and light as well.
 
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Vz58 would be my first choice for the price, but a new one is rarely under $1000 these days - especially if you are looking for the chrome lined barrel version. A mini 14 in a 580/581 series would also be a good choice if someone wanted a gun that didn't have that military-esque look.
 
Easy choice. my Ruger SR-22. Now before any complain about it only being a .22, it looks more like a true black rifle then any of the other NR black rifles for under $1,000.

Also in it's favour is how much more ammo./mag.'s one can hump (if needed) plus legally available 25Rd.+ mag. capacity and the fact the rifle and ammo. is quite affordable and quiet to shoot.

Now if centre-fire ammo. is to be part of the equation then my pick would be a JR carbine in 9mm.

Cheers D
 
I won't knock you for the Ruger Sr-22, to be honest I never truly considered a .22.... interesting thought process !
Zeroed-In said:
Easy choice. my Ruger SR-22. Now before any complain about it only being a .22, it looks more like a true black rifle then any of the other NR black rifles for under $1,000.

Also in it's favour is how much more ammo./mag.'s one can hump (if needed) plus legally available 25Rd.+ mag. capacity and the fact the rifle and ammo. is quite affordable and quiet to shoot.

Now if centre-fire ammo. is to be part of the equation then my pick would be a JR carbine in 9mm.

Cheers D
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Between Mini 14/30 & Vz58 for me.

AR's have been getting closer to that price point.

Restricted unfortunately.
 
AR-180B for AR-lookalike.

SU-16 for not so scary looking.

Still have both.

Never had a Mini-14.

But if ARs were non-restricted I wouldn't even look at the others.
 
bluearmy said:
I had a T97… it was ok in my opinion it felt cheep. My go to is 100% my tavor but for $1000 my 9mm jr carbine has never ever let me down.
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I heard the .45ACP JR's were plagued with FTF/FTE issues. Has that been fixed?
 
Mini-14 for sure if you can find one new
Remington 7615p good luck finding one new
Norinco T97 they are every where
the last 2 take AR mags which is better than the Mini-14 but I just love the Mini better
 
Between the VZ58 and T97, I think I would go T97 but haven't bought it yet (and never owned a VZ58) so I'm speaking out of turn. But I do have the FTU, getting the LHG and T97 when the LHG is done. Anyone that want's a new condition Kel Tec SU16FX with fab defense survival stock and witt comp at this price point PM me.
 
DVX said:
I heard the .45ACP JR's were plagued with FTF/FTE issues. Has that been fixed?
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JRC has fixed the issue on newer ones and on older ones there's a fix available, or you can just cut some off the mag spring.

I like my JRC in 40SW but it hasn't really seen much daylight since I bought an HK SL8. JRC is fun to shoot, but the 40SW is not gonna be doing anything more than a couple of hundred yards.

I was thinking about a T97, but then I saw a couple at the range and was turned off by the size of the dent the ejector puts on the spent case - made it look very iffy for reloading (and I reload a lot of .223).

For under a grand I think you're either buying a PCC (like the JRC) or go for the VZ. Or if you want .22 - then SR-22 ftw.
 
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