Lyman or Lee?

ok going to stick with the lymen. My buddy just picked up a leeloader for his 270 and says thats good enough for him. So instead I'm going to put the money I had set aside for that venture towards a RCBS ChargeMaster Combo.
 
Dude, not even I would trade off that Lyman. Like you did,though, I would also buy Lee stuff. However, since I had a press, I wouldn't be getting a kit. I'd take the opportunity to buy other stuff. I don't like Lee's Powder measure. I have a Lyman. I don't like their scale, I have a Lyman and an RCBS.
Enjoy your Spartan.
 
billdick said:
The only good thing in the LEE kit is the press. The scale and powder thrower are crap compared to rcbs or lyman or redding.
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The Lee Scale, I'll grant, is less user friendly than just about any other scale ever made, but it is accurate.
Very sensitive.
The Lee powder measure is made from plastic and doesn't feel very substantial, but how much stress is it sujected to? It needn't be made from cast iron. I heard someone complain that the included stand was too flimsy and they'd bent it up and had to make their own. I truly don't understand how they'd manage such a feat, but maybe that is the fault of my limited imagination.
The Lee measure works better with extruded powders than any of my others, including Lyman, Bonanza, and a CH similar to an RCBS Uniflow. All are very nice tools, but all my extruded powder goes through the lowly Lee. Not bad for less than 1/3 the price.
I'm excited to see their new Classic Cast iron one coming soon; it should be pretty nice.
 
Rory McCanuck said:
The Lee Scale, I'll grant, is less user friendly than just about any other scale ever made, but it is accurate.
Very sensitive.
The Lee powder measure is made from plastic and doesn't feel very substantial, but how much stress is it sujected to? It needn't be made from cast iron. I heard someone complain that the included stand was too flimsy and they'd bent it up and had to make their own. I truly don't understand how they'd manage such a feat, but maybe that is the fault of my limited imagination.
The Lee measure works better with extruded powders than any of my others, including Lyman, Bonanza, and a CH similar to an RCBS Uniflow. All are very nice tools, but all my extruded powder goes through the lowly Lee. Not bad for less than 1/3 the price.
I'm excited to see their new Classic Cast iron one coming soon; it should be pretty nice.
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I still use both the powder thrower and the scale, they work great. I have a RCBS 5-0-5 scale and have checked the Lee against it, bang on so I don't know what all the Lee bashing is about personally. The company has been around for along time and lots of people use them so they must work.
 
The Lee Scale, I'll grant, is less user friendly than just about any other scale ever made, but it is accurate.
Very sensitive.
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The LEE scale is the most frustrating piece of crap that I have seen being sold as a scale. I know a couple of people that almost gave up reloading because of it. As to it's supposed accuracy, the reason that these people became frustrated, is that they could not get consistent results with the scale. They were weighing the same powder charge multiple times, and getting different readings each time. As soon as they replaced the LEE scales, all issues immediately disappeared. Most people that I know that were unlucky enough to own a LEE scale, either gave it away, or smashed it, or shot it, and they felt a lot better afterward.
 
stubblejumper said:
The LEE scale is the most frustrating piece of crap that I have seen being sold as a scale. I know a couple of people that almost gave up reloading because of it. As to it's supposed accuracy, the reason that these people became frustrated, is that they could not get consistent results with the scale. They were weighing the same powder charge multiple times, and getting different readings each time. As soon as they replaced the LEE scales, all issues immediately disappeared. Most people that I know that were unlucky enough to own a LEE scale, either gave it away, or smashed it, or shot it, and they felt a lot better afterward.
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I've had mine for 25 + year's and it work's without fail. Not to mention super sensitive. It settle's down a lot quicker then when I first got it now also.
 
stubblejumper said:
The LEE scale is the most frustrating piece of crap that I have seen being sold as a scale. I know a couple of people that almost gave up reloading because of it. As to it's supposed accuracy, the reason that these people became frustrated, is that they could not get consistent results with the scale. They were weighing the same powder charge multiple times, and getting different readings each time. As soon as they replaced the LEE scales, all issues immediately disappeared. Most people that I know that were unlucky enough to own a LEE scale, either gave it away, or smashed it, or shot it, and they felt a lot better afterward.
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to put it nicely, they must be doing something wrong.
 
legi0n said:
to put it nicely, they must be doing something wrong.
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Given that they have absolutely no issues with similar scales by other manufacturers, I doubt that it's a case of not knowing how to use the scale. However it is possible that the QC is so bad, that some LEE scales are actually useable, while others are not.
 
Anyone -- you see the ALUMINUM BEAK in OP's picture.
I have that piece sitting with my stuff but it has RCBS on it. So which RCBS press that might have belonged to - Thanks
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OK - thanks never used it thatway.
 
stubblejumper said:
Given that they have absolutely no issues with similar scales by other manufacturers, I doubt that it's a case of not knowing how to use the scale. However it is possible that the QC is so bad, that some LEE scales are actually useable, while others are not.
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I would disagree.
The Lee scale has that little nub that has to be snapped into place to lock the vernier.
Some people don't read the instructions and don't do it hence the vernier is sliding.
Yet they can operate "simpler" scales.
 
legi0n said:
I would disagree.
The Lee scale has that little nub that has to be snapped into place to lock the vernier.
Some people don't read the instructions and don't do it hence the vernier is sliding.
Yet they can operate "simpler" scales.
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I didn't spend much time with the LEE scales. I did however bring some check weights over to a friends place to check his scale and and once the check weights were placed on the scale and the scale was balanced, taking the check weights off the scale and replacing them without touching anything else , resulted in the scale sometimes balancing again, and sometimes not balancing. That alone proved that the scale lacked consistency.
 
stubblejumper said:
I didn't spend much time with the LEE scales. I did however bring some check weights over to a friends place to check his scale and and once the check weights were placed on the scale and the scale was balanced, taking the check weights off the scale and replacing them without touching anything else , resulted in the scale sometimes balancing again, and sometimes not balancing. That alone proved that the scale lacked consistency.
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I don't believe that.
beam scales are tried and true.
send them my way and I'll calibrate them for you.
 
stubblejumper said:
They are only true if the knives and the blocks that the knives balance in are true. If either has imperfections the knives may not balance smoothly.
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That would have to be a really bad block with certain v-shaped notches for the "knife"
Hard to believe such a thing can "happen"
Send them my way for checking please.
 
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I've had mine for 25 + year's and it work's without fail. Not to mention super sensitive. It settle's down a lot quicker then when I first got it now also.
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one more reason to doubt your Lee scale experience.
 
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