Lyman or Lee?

I would disagree.
The Lee scale has that little nub that has to be snapped into place to lock the vernier.
Some people don't read the instructions and don't do it hence the vernier is sliding.
Yet they can operate "simpler" scales.
So, took your advice. Dug that scale out of my "Reloading Stuff I Don't Use" box. Yep, I have not used that locking nub before. Used the check weights from my RCBS scale. It still took waaaaaay too long to get to zero but it did do it three times in a row, something it never did before. I am one of Lee's biggest proponents, esp., here, but I don't like that finicky scale.
 
So, took your advice. Dug that scale out of my "Reloading Stuff I Don't Use" box. Yep, I have not used that locking nub before. Used the check weights from my RCBS scale. It still took waaaaaay too long to get to zero but it did do it three times in a row, something it never did before. I am one of Lee's biggest proponents, esp., here, but I don't like that finicky scale.

If you ever happen to travel to the BC's Lower Mainland, I'd be happy to take the Lee scale off your hands.
Then we can talk about it and other stuff over a few beers
 
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one more reason to doubt your Lee scale experience.

So because one person is happy with his LEE scale, they all must be great? So every time that someone has a complaint with a product, the manufacturer just has to produce one satisfied customer to prove that there is no issue with the product? That is quite the theory.:rolleyes:

If you ever happen to travel to the BC's Lower Mainland, I'd be happy to take the Lee scale off your hands.
Then we can talk about it and other stuff over a few beers

I have been fortunate enough to have never owned a LEE scale.


I am one of Lee's biggest proponents, esp., here, but I don't like that finicky scale.

Given that it was posted by someone that really likes LEE, that says a lot.
 
So because one person is happy with his LEE scale, they all must be great? So every time that someone has a complaint with a product, the manufacturer just has to produce one satisfied customer to prove that there is no issue with the product? That is quite the theory.:rolleyes:

no, not really.
It's just that bashing a product when one doesn't use it properly does grind my gears.
I instantly label such persons as skindeep entitled ones who expect everything on a silver plate.
I do accept that some products are bad. But it's really difficult to make a bad beam scale.
 
I do accept that some products are bad. But it's really difficult to make a bad beam scale.

It may be difficult, but judging by the fact that even some strong supporters of LEE products won't use them, apparently LEE has succeeded in making a poor beam scale.
 
It may be difficult, but judging by the fact that even some strong supporters of LEE products won't use them, apparently LEE has succeeded in making a poor beam scale.

you ran out of arguments and now you're trying to mix them up.
the scale proved to be accurate when user properly so the user not liking it is totally subjective (perhaps a memory of times when using it improperly).
 
you ran out of arguments and now you're trying to mix them up.
the scale proved to be accurate when user properly so the user not liking it is totally subjective (perhaps a memory of times when using it improperly).

You weren't present when the other people were using their LEE scales, so you don't know if they were using them properly or not. You can assume what you like, but that is a fact.
 
You weren't present when the other people were using their LEE scales, so you don't know if they were using them properly or not. You can assume what you like, but that is a fact.

you can't say it's a fact when you can't prove it.
Reading other posts of yours, you come as a reasonable guy so let's put this childish argument aside.
 
you can't say it's a fact when you can't prove it.

Fact- you were not present when the people that I referred to were using their LEE scales.

Fact- since you weren't present, you don't know if they used them correctly or not

Fact- any assumption of whether they used the scales properly or improperly is only an assumption
 
Fact- you were not present when the people that I referred to were using their LEE scales.

Fact- since you weren't present, you don't know if they used them correctly or not

Fact- any assumption of whether they used the scales properly or improperly is only an assumption

fact: you can't prove they used the scales properly so you assume they did. see your first, second and third line.
 
fact: you can't prove they used the scales properly so you assume they did. see your first, second and third line.

Actually I was present to use my check weights on one of the scales. I put the check weights on, and off several times to see if the scale would balance. Nothing to mess up by just moving check weights on and off a scale.

But you just keep on using that LEE scale, and pretending that it is a quality product.:)
 
Actually I was present to use my check weights on one of the scales. I put the check weights on, and off several times to see if the scale would balance. Nothing to mess up by just moving check weights on and off a scale.

But you just keep on using that LEE scale, and pretending that it is a quality product.:)

was the vernier locked in place?
 

I love this one... felt the same way, but I agree with legiOn. Unless you've owned and used something personally, it's really difficult to talk about it (positively or negatively). Third party anecdotes are just that... I'd have to go through all of the posts, but I honestly can't recall what equipment stubblejumper uses!

I own a Lee scale - it's very accurate and does take some patience in getting it set up properly, but once it's set, it's pretty hard to beat. It does register fractions of grains when other scales (including digital) aren't moving. Lee is known for a lot of innovative things in the reloading world - they've been doing it for a very long time. I also own a Hornady digital scale - way easier/faster to use and when I'm loading regular practice rounds of 9mm or .40, I can live with the accuracy of the digital scale, so I don't even set the Lee scale up! However, when I'm loading 30-30 or .303 or (soon to be loading) .308, I will be using the Lee scale.
 
I love how my thread about a Lymen Press or a Lee Press turned into a pissing match on the topic of scales between 2 pre-pubescent bridge trolls that went on for almost 25 posts...
 
I love how my thread about a Lymen Press or a Lee Press

True - I started out with a used Lee 1000 progressive press for 9mm. It wasn't a good first press - no progressive press is a first good press, no matter who makes it IMO. I then purchased a Lee turret press - not so automated and things go at your own pace. This worked extremely well - I love the press. Then I moved into larger rifle rounds and while the Lee turret could handle them, I felt that a solid single stage would be best. I actually looked at a used Lyman... ended up buying a new Lee Classic cast - it's great, but I did it mainly for support of parts/warranty. I wasn't confident that I'd be able to get parts for the old Lyman (long since discontinued) and while they tend to be overbuilt, nothing lasts forever. I think that everything that Lee makes is very good - certainly great quality and the support (both from the company and the internet) is unmatched by any other make/model. You simply can't go wrong with Lee. That's not to say it's better than the others... but it's certainly far less expensive; there's no arguing that.
 
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