Savage 10TR vs Rem 700

Savage 10TR vs Remington 700

  • Savage

    Votes: 68 54.4%

  • Remington

    Votes: 57 45.6%
  • Total voters
    125
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I'm still new into the whole precision shooting scene. I recently acquired a Remington 700LA .308 with a police barrel in a McMillan A5 stock. I also have a Savage 10TR. Only aftermarket parts are a cheek riser and ATRS muzzle brake. I took the 700 in on a trade with the idea of shooting it and comparing it to my 10TR and selling the loser. Honestly I'm a little bit unsure which would be the better choice. I've had the 10TR out maybe 5 or 6 times now, the 700 was out for the first time today. They both seem to shoot about the same, sub MOA as long as I do my part. So here's my personal pros and cons.

Savage 10TR
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PROS
- I like the accutrigger
- threaded muzzle
- larger bolt handle
- 5R rifling if that matters

CONS
- not a big fan of the accustock
- bolt is a little sloppy
- not as much aftermarket support

Remington 700
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PROS
- really like the McMillan stock
- larger aftermarket support

CONS
- bolt handle somewhat small to manipulate
- muzzle not threaded
- trigger is crisp but heavy

So what would you guys do? Like I said the plan is to sell one then dump that money into the winner.
 
The only cons to the Remington are easily fixed with a trip to the gunsmith, and will be cheaper than upgrading the Savage's stock. Plus no amount of money will fix the feel of the Savage bolt if that bugs you.
 
I'd be down for the Remy 'cause I'm biased... and tons of aftermarket parts.

- The bolt handle can always be milled down and threaded to use a tactical knob.
- Muzzle can easily be threaded
- You can always swap out to a Timney 510 or even a Calvin Elite trigger

Edit: Not to mention, it comes with a great stock!
 
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That's kind of what I figured with the 700. Threading the muzzle and a larger bolt knob can all be done by a gunsmith. The slight slop in the savage bolt is when it's open fully to the rear. I have seen bolt bodies that supposedly take care of the slop. Another advantage of the savage is easier to change the barrel but I don't think that's really a huge deal.
 
tactical_tech said:
That's kind of what I figured with the 700. Threading the muzzle and a larger bolt knob can all be done by a gunsmith. The slight slop in the savage bolt is when it's open fully to the rear. I have seen bolt bodies that supposedly take care of the slop. Another advantage of the savage is easier to change the barrel but I don't think that's really a huge deal.
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Chances are, if you swap out the barrel, it'll be for a custom match grade one and the gunsmith will have to remove the old one to install the new one and headspace it accordingly. :)
 
The Remy has a really good stock on it. As you have noted, they shoot pretty much the same, so the stock is the tie breaker.
 
...everyone's got a 700... go with the Savage = why be normal.
also, the bolt slop only being present when fully at the rear bothers you? That's not an easy fix, but you could say my savage 10 has the same issue. Although I have to say it doesnt bother me one bit. The bolt is smooth as silk when going forward and has zero play in motion. For me, I went with the savage for something different. With precision shooting, aftermarket parts compatibility is not a huge deal as anything required to increase your capabilities usually requires a gunsmith, not a bolt on accessory.
Both are great guns and have been well proven. Which would you miss more? I see A LOT of 700's around so they have far less appeal to me than a well built savage. Just my 2cents.
 
Trazor said:
...everyone's got a 700... go with the Savage = why be normal.
also, the bolt slop only being present when fully at the rear bothers you? That's not an easy fix, but you could say my savage 10 has the same issue. Although I have to say it doesnt bother me one bit. The bolt is smooth as silk when going forward and has zero play in motion. For me, I went with the savage for something different. With precision shooting, aftermarket parts compatibility is not a huge deal as anything required to increase your capabilities usually requires a gunsmith, not a bolt on accessory.
Both are great guns and have been well proven. Which would you miss more? I see A LOT of 700's around so they have far less appeal to me than a well built savage. Just my 2cents.
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The little bit of slop isn't really an issue, ya it bugs me a little but that's about it. I do find the savage action to be slightly smoother and easier to operate, some of that might be due to the larger bolt handle on the savage. I'm like you, I like to be different as well. Which is why I like the savage. I imagine the price I could get for the 700 would easily be enough to get a stock for the Savage.
 
Which model 700 are you comparing to the 10TR? 700 is a pretty broad spectrum. I guess the closest in terms of specs is probably the 700P or the 700 5R Milspec? Except the stocks and the feel of the 700's actions are worlds apart from the 10TR, so I dunno, does someone else have an opinion on this? I remember it was discussed to death when the 10TR first came out.

I still have both the 10TR and a 700, but I've had my 10TR out more. I've had my 10TR out to 625m reliably, beyond that, it got a little weird, but there's a guy on here who's had his out to 953m

I think I'm going to try to spend more time with my 700 this year and figure out what she likes to eat. She was good out to 300m but got weird beyond that. I've been shooting factory ammo, but I guess I should probably get into reloading.

I wasn't a fan of the way the Accustock felt (at least the one that came with my 10TR). It worked just fine, just didn't like the way it felt or looked so I switched to something else within a week. Had a bit of that bolt slop that everyone's talking about. PTG bolt body sorted that out for me, feels way better, wasn't hard to install either.

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My first 700 was the Police model which came with the HS Precision stock. I guess it was my only comparison against my 10TR's Accustock, and the HS Precision stock just felt so much better. That being said, I don't have that rifle any more. The 700 I have now:

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As much as I'm a big fan of the 10TR, I think Remington might win this one just because there are just so many out there.
 
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I certainly like the stock on your Rem 700 better, I've had a few McMillans and they seem to be a good fit for my taste. The Rem 700 also has increased after market support, that has been beat to death so I won't say anymore on that subject. Your bolt handle and muzzle threading issues you have figured out already too. So in the end for me it is a dead heat, comes down to what you like better and what your long term plans are for your shooting.

If your asking an opinion, I would go with the Rem 700.
 
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Mister Donut said:
Which model 700 are you comparing to the 10TR? 700 is a pretty broad spectrum. I guess the closest in terms of specs is probably the 700P or the 700 5R Milspec? Except the stocks and the feel of the 700's actions are worlds apart from the 10TR, so I dunno, does someone else have an opinion on this? I remember it was discussed to death when the 10TR first came out.

I still have both the 10TR and a 700, but I've had my 10TR out more. I've had my 10TR out to 625m reliably, beyond that, it got a little weird, but there's a guy on here who's had his out to 953m

I think I'm going to try to spend more time with my 700 this year and figure out what she likes to eat. She was good out to 300m but got weird beyond that. I've been shooting factory ammo, but I guess I should probably get into reloading.

I wasn't a fan of the way the Accustock felt (at least the one that came with my 10TR). It worked just fine, just didn't like the way it felt or looked so I switched to something else within a week. Had a bit of that bolt slop that everyone's talking about. PTG bolt body sorted that out for me, feels way better, wasn't hard to install either.
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Honestly I'm not 100% sure what 700 it would be. Previous owner told me it was a 700 long action from about 2006 that originally was in 30-06. Friend of his had a unfired 700 police barrel, so he put that barrel on it and added the McMillan stock. Never fired it and has been sitting for a few years.

I keep going back and forth on this. I really like the savage but I think the 700 will win based on the stock. If I could find someway to get a McMillan stock or similar for the savage without waiting several months, I'd keep the savage, but it seems like any McMillan style stock or similar is quite a long wait.
 
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The wait sucks but you have a very capable rifle in the savage already. Be pretty fun to try and shoot out that factory barrel before the new stuff arrives.
 
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