Scope Mount for M305

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Hey guys, I picked up my first rifle the other day (an M305 with the 18.6" which I actually intend to sell before getting the 20" but that's another story) and now I'm looking at optics options. I've seen the excellent thread in the MBR section showing some fantastic mounts and opinions, however I was wondering if anyone has had experience with the 2 different M14 scope mount offerings by Allied Arms simply referred to as "M14/M305/M1A Scope Mount" and the "See-Thru Superior Duty M14/M305/M1A Scope Mount." Tried some googling and haven't come up with reviews or opinions.

The cheaper option looks a little flimsy with few mounting points, but the Superior Duty claims to mount the receiver at 4 points.

Does it look like it's worth the money? Is there a better option to get for sub $200?

Thanks!

762
 
I had a Norc M305 and made my own steel mount that fits the proper slot on the side and is attached with the one screw hole for that purpose. It has a Weaver type rail on top over the bore. Sight removal is not necessary.

It isn't as nice as the factory machined mounts.

Kind of heavy but it worked well. It was on my rifle the whole time I had it, I forget how many years, 10 or more.

I still have it.

It weighs 10.7 ounces but there could be lightening holes drilled.
 
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Marcel B. said:
I had a Norc M305 and made my own steel mount that fits the proper slot on the side and is attached with the one screw hole for that purpose. It has a Weaver type rail on top over the bore. Sight removal is not necessary.

It isn't as nice as the factory machined mounts.

Kind of heavy but it worked well. It was on my rifle the whole time I had it, I forget how many years, 10 or more.

I still have it.

It weighs 10.7 ounces but there could be lightening holes drilled.
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If you're going to scope a carbine don't use a see through. Puts the scope too high. The other one is very similar to a real M-14 scope mount though.
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My home made, warts and all.

I could have taken more time to finish up the metal better at the time but didn't for some reason.

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It worked well for me.

The main key is the bit that fits the slot on the receiver and making sure the mounting screw isn't loose. I took a lot of care fitting to my rifle, cut and try method with a couple of file strokes at a time until it was perfect.

It was mounted to the rifle with a socket head cap screw.

Never had an issue other than the weight which I could have reduced quite a bit with judiciously placed lightening holes on the angle part.

I made it quite a while back, probably in 1989.

It was pretty slick how I lined up the rail with the mount, I centered the windage adjustment on my scope and mounted the scope to the rail and the mount to the rifle.

I bore sighted the rifle on a distant object with the rifle held in a padded vise, then sat the scope and rail on top of the mount and lined the scope with the same distant object. I had large holes drilled to plug weld the rail to the mount, so I ran CA glue into the joint and let it set.
After while I tried to move the scope, the rail was firm to the mount.

I then removed the scope and rings from the rail and checked for a firm bond again. All was good so I removed the mount from the rifle and clamped vise grips to the mount/rail and did a couple of tacks in the plug weld holes, then finished the welds.
After everything was cooled off I dressed everything up and mounted the scope to the rail again and the whole works to the rifle that was still in the vise bore-sighted to the distant object.
I looked through the scope and BINGO, right on the object.

I heat blued and quenched in used motor oil.

I was really surprised when I first tried it out, I was only about 3 inches off at 100 yards, no chit.
 
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get the CASM , made in Canada, and very good quality. Also sit high up so that you dont have issues with empties hitting the bottom of the mount and stovepiping like on my arms18.
 
LeftFootOfDoom said:
get the CASM , made in Canada, and very good quality. Also sit high up so that you dont have issues with empties hitting the bottom of the mount and stovepiping like on my arms18.
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please make it so the iron sights still function. that is CASM big drawback, windage and elevation is replaced with a hole in the plate. please utilize the horizontal and vertical mounting grooves.
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"See-Through" scope mounts that allow the use of iron sights as well = compromise. IMO, choose one or the other for best results.
 
My arms 18 is all I need. Rock solid, low as can be and I keep my irons for back up. Then again I "need" this feature as I hunt with these rifles often.
If yer just a range shooter and yer rifle doesn't see much field use, maybe irons aren't important.
For me, any mount that replaces the rear sight is a negative
 
Right now I am looking at an ARMS18, are they still making the ProMag copy? Is it steel and if so where in Canada can I purchase it? Sadlak looks nice but the price tag and dollar difference from the US makes that out of the question at the moment (I still need rings and optics!).
 
762ftw said:
Right now I am looking at an ARMS18, are they still making the ProMag copy? Is it steel and if so where in Canada can I purchase it? Sadlak looks nice but the price tag and dollar difference from the US makes that out of the question at the moment (I still need rings and optics!).
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The ARMS 18 is excellent (I use one and have the CASM as well), but be aware that many, if not most of those who have mounted one have experienced jams. It is mounted so low that on occassion an ejection will fail. A stronger extractor spring can improve the situation, but beware of those who dismiss this as a possibility, or suggest that it's something that's easily corrected.
 
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I know Hical was selling the promag version of the arms 18, I have the arms on my NM and I love it, it sits low enough as stated that irons are still there when you need them, the promag is good as well but I didn't like mine because it only has one position option for the rings as the middle is cut away, I will assume to prevent the jams people are talking about with the arms 18?? but other than that its a good solid mounting option as well
 
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