S&W M&P with thumb safety
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I will check the manual. I'm sure it shows the different variations.
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The owners manual shows how to swap the mag release for left/right. For the safety. It shows it as being a possible ambidextrous option for the pistol. Also shows the internal mag safety lever,shows it as an option.
Mine has the mag safety lever. But no external thumb safety.
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Clobbersauras
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An ergonomic manual safety on a striker fired gun can never be a bad thing. For certain types of cary, and for those that may use their pistols outside of a range, a manual safety may actually be preferred.
I wish the "my trigger finger is my safety" BS would hurry up and die. It's pure hubris.
learn something new every day. "hubris" had to look that up.
there are times where a safety is required and times it is not. If i was carrying in a holster every day. I would not want a safety, IMO the M&P is an excellent gun, ive never had an issue with it. it wont shoot unless i pull the trigger. Its not excessive pride or self-confidence, its a simple fact.
Clobbersauras
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Well, I think you need to do some research on typical ND's of striker fired guns. Sympathetic reflex, holstering, drawing, movement, and pure jackassery have all resulted in the trigger being pulled when it shouldn't have. In a lots of those cases, a manual safety and training in it's proper use, could have prevented an ND.
I'm not saying that a safety will prevent ND's, but it ads another layer of capability, that can reduce ND's. There are other ways to help prevent them, longer heavier trigger pull, for instance.
My main issue with the above posts is the attitude that ND's are only caused by poor trigger finger discipline. That is a huge component, but it's just a piece of the puzzle.
If you shoot you are more likely to have an ND. If you shoot a LOT, you are even more likely to have an ND. And if you shoot a LOT with the attitude that "I'm really safe and this will never happen to me", then you are playing with fire.
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Dr. Gary Roberts (DocGKR) makes a good case for manual safeties here:
https://pistol-forum.com/showthread.php?8563-D-amp-L-Cominolli-Glock-Safety
Consider that M&Ps (as well as some other striker pistols) are essentially in "condition zero" when carried at the ready in a holster, as the striker is nearly at a fully-cocked position. AFAIK, nobody recommends carrying a 1911 in a "cocked and unlocked" mode.
That being said, my M&P is one of the standard ones with no manual safety because it was readily available at a good price. As it is, I don't consider it a must, but if appendix carry was on the agenda, I would likely seek out one of the thumb safety models.
https://pistol-forum.com/showthread.php?8563-D-amp-L-Cominolli-Glock-Safety
Consider that M&Ps (as well as some other striker pistols) are essentially in "condition zero" when carried at the ready in a holster, as the striker is nearly at a fully-cocked position. AFAIK, nobody recommends carrying a 1911 in a "cocked and unlocked" mode.
That being said, my M&P is one of the standard ones with no manual safety because it was readily available at a good price. As it is, I don't consider it a must, but if appendix carry was on the agenda, I would likely seek out one of the thumb safety models.
thunderhand
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The m&p 40 in my safe does not have a thumb safety either.
A manual safety can also be a bad thing. What about accidental safety engagement during a gunfight? For most that isn't a concern but you mentioned "those that may use their pistols outside of a range" and I immediately assumed police officers. That's one of the reasons why Glock is so popular with law enforcement, aside from other factors of course.
Bigfoot 870
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My buddy's M&P 9mm does not have a thumb safety.
Clobbersauras
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Personally?
As many as I can handle and still be able to shoot an advanced level FAST.
Specifically, I like the capability to decock and put the safety on a before I holster. Alternatively, if I can ride a hammer (or Glock gadget when it comes out) when I holster I'm generally happy.
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When I want a S&W part, i phone them in the USA. They will pull your serial number and get the right part. They could tell your if a thumb safety is a drop in or if other parts also need changing.
My 9 and 40 have the blanking hole for the safety, but never asked about adding the safety.
They won't mail parts to Canada. Have them mailed to a friend in the USA.
My 9 and 40 have the blanking hole for the safety, but never asked about adding the safety.
They won't mail parts to Canada. Have them mailed to a friend in the USA.
