I just received my CSA VZ61 380 acp. first impression is it looked exactly like my zastava M84 32 acp.
lets begin with what you get for your money .
with the 32acp, zastava and CSA you get 2- 20rds mags , 1- 10rds , a mag pouch, a rifle pouch and cleaning tools.
with CSA 380 acp, you get 2 plastic mags , cleaning brush and a shipping plastic case.
upon closer look , there are some differences .
external : the finishing , CSA seems more durable , my M84 had some paint peeling off.
the M84 milled out the back of the receiver to accommodate the wire stock, the stock can be removed very easily , just depress a pin and slide off, this look like the original method . with CSA you have to undo two screws which are not easily accessible. the stock from CSA appears to fit into the M84 but the M84 stock will not fit into the CSA.
I found the safety lever of the CSA easier to operate , to fire the lever moves forward while the M84 moves rearward , alittle awkward to operate with the thumb also the CSA lever moves smoother .
the plastic mag is a bit sticky to get in and out , I prefer the metal mags , even tho my two VZ61 are different caliber the mags will fit and lock with each other but probably not work well with each other tho.
internal : the M84 has milled out the inside to accommodate a buffer , it comes with the buffer mechanism, I remove mine bcos it save 100g weight and also I don't believe its needed . in a full auto the buffer acts like a reducer . the CSA is not milled for the buffer so no buffer mechanism came with it .
both weight 1200g with no stock , no mag and no buffer. the metal mag weight approx. 100g and the plastic is approx. 50g , the stock weight about 120g
I have taken my M84 to the range once and its quite a fun gun to fire , no recoil so I can imagine in full auto it would be easy to control . I cant wait to try out the 380 .
lets begin with what you get for your money .
with the 32acp, zastava and CSA you get 2- 20rds mags , 1- 10rds , a mag pouch, a rifle pouch and cleaning tools.
with CSA 380 acp, you get 2 plastic mags , cleaning brush and a shipping plastic case.
upon closer look , there are some differences .
external : the finishing , CSA seems more durable , my M84 had some paint peeling off.
the M84 milled out the back of the receiver to accommodate the wire stock, the stock can be removed very easily , just depress a pin and slide off, this look like the original method . with CSA you have to undo two screws which are not easily accessible. the stock from CSA appears to fit into the M84 but the M84 stock will not fit into the CSA.
I found the safety lever of the CSA easier to operate , to fire the lever moves forward while the M84 moves rearward , alittle awkward to operate with the thumb also the CSA lever moves smoother .
the plastic mag is a bit sticky to get in and out , I prefer the metal mags , even tho my two VZ61 are different caliber the mags will fit and lock with each other but probably not work well with each other tho.
internal : the M84 has milled out the inside to accommodate a buffer , it comes with the buffer mechanism, I remove mine bcos it save 100g weight and also I don't believe its needed . in a full auto the buffer acts like a reducer . the CSA is not milled for the buffer so no buffer mechanism came with it .
both weight 1200g with no stock , no mag and no buffer. the metal mag weight approx. 100g and the plastic is approx. 50g , the stock weight about 120g
I have taken my M84 to the range once and its quite a fun gun to fire , no recoil so I can imagine in full auto it would be easy to control . I cant wait to try out the 380 .
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they look airsoft-ish
