Welding on a CSA Vz 58 receiver

[warrenlikesboats]

Tried to weld a steel side rail to the receiver of my CSA Vz 58 this aft..... using a mig welder, I could not get a proper bond I also noticed the receiver wouldn't blue nearly as easily as my other Russian guns.... wonder if there's something about the metallurgy of the CSA receiver that sets it aside from the easy to weld Russian receivers? has anyone had success welding on a CSA receiver ? *thankfully the receiver was not damaged by the Welding*

 

[223762]

they are cast receivers.

 

[warrenlikesboats]

ahhh that explains a lot.... guess ill be drilling and tapping the mount :/

 

[BeaverMeat]

Tried to weld a steel side rail to the receiver of my CSA Vz 58 this aft..... using a mig welder, I could not get a proper bond I also noticed the receiver wouldn't blue nearly as easily as my other Russian guns.... wonder if there's something about the metallurgy of the CSA receiver that sets it aside from the easy to weld Russian receivers? has anyone had success welding on a CSA receiver ? *thankfully the receiver was not damaged by the Welding*

The Vz58 is Czechoslovakian... Not Russian.

 

[223762]

ahhh that explains a lot.... guess ill be drilling and tapping the mount :/

ya i was shocked when i found out they were cast and then milled. dont all the csa's have mounting holes? or just the ones ive seen?

 

[st1264]

I like the old way better... thought all VZ58's were milled.

 

[223762]

I like the old way better... thought all VZ58's were milled.

old way? the 858 and the original vz58 are all cast then milled.

 

[BeaverMeat]

I like the old way better... thought all VZ58's were milled.

The Czechs were pioneers of investment casting. It's a high quality cast. Don't know how perfected the CSA method is in comparison to CZ.

 

[bfiles]

This thread doesn't make sense.
ALL csa rifles are tapped from the factory for he side mount so I have no idea why you would want to weld anything on to it and if it isn't already tapped then it definitely isn't a csa then

 

[223762]

This thread doesn't make sense.
ALL csa rifles are tapped from the factory for he side mount so I have no idea why you would want to weld anything on to it and if it isn't already tapped then it definitely isn't a csa then

thats what i thought

 

[warrenlikesboats]

This thread doesn't make sense.
ALL csa rifles are tapped from the factory for he side mount so I have no idea why you would want to weld anything on to it and if it isn't already tapped then it definitely isn't a csa then

The side rail im using is different, and would require serious modifications to make work with the pre tapped holes, presuming that the CSA receiver was milled from solid steel (not cast) I thought it would weld easily, guess I was wrong, so now i have to modify the mount to work with the pre tapped holes....

 

[wbaad]

The side rail im using is different, and would require serious modifications to make work with the pre tapped holes, presuming that the CSA receiver was milled from solid steel (not cast) I thought it would weld easily, guess I was wrong, so now i have to modify the mount to work with the pre tapped holes....

If at all possible, modify existing removable fixtures to fit the rifle. If you mod the gun you will kick yourself.

 

[BeaverMeat]

If at all possible, modify existing removable fixtures to fit the rifle. If you mod the gun you will kick yourself.

What he said. Don't expect to get $1000 back if you decide to sell it.

 

[warrenlikesboats]

Is the bolt carrier cast as well ??

 

[wbaad]

Is the bolt carrier cast as well ??

Yikes.
By attempting to weld on your gun you have basically destroyed its value. Please do not sell it to someone without disclosing this

 

[RedApe]

Yikes.
By attempting to weld on your gun you have basically destroyed its value. Please do not sell it to someone without disclosing this

but it's an upgrade.

 

[4307]

need pics.

 

[jakester]

Is the bolt carrier cast as well ??

The bolt carrier can be welded. The newer CSA VZ58's have the elongated tab welded on the carrier to prevent the dreaded "Gremlin"

 

[onetwentyish]

You guys realize this is the same guy that made the hugely popular SVT40 dragunov clone (youtube video) that made waves this past fall right?

Something tells me an AK clone is in the works. Looking forward to the finished product!

 

[bfiles]

^^^^^
Yes I know that and that's why I'm stunned he would want to weld anything to his csa rifle