Fake Leupold Scopes.
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I have not done a bunch of long range shooting so I called a buddy with lots of experience but mentioned about checking how scopes track he explained how it works basically and said bring over the rifle. So we vised my son's .22 and at 25 yards inside his shop and he taped a 100 yard target to his shop door. We then wrote down the turret numbers zeroed and while he looked thru the scope he had me wind the turrets left until I hit the far left edge of the target. He then had me crank the turrets down while observing the tracking of the crosshairs followed the edge of the target. Then he had me crank the turrets far right until the crosshairs hit the far right leading edge. Then cranked the turret up until the right top corner lined up. The far left all while checking the tracking followed the edges perfectly and then back to the center left edge.
Finished we referred to the written down numbers and confirmed the zero was back after some turret twisting and clicking.
He explained to me about a box had to be completed then the center. Now he also mentioned that to do this precisely it should be done at 100 yards while shooting but he also said what we did if a pretty good indicator about the tracking regardless as he said a bad scope will need to be tapped, will track diagonally, or not return to zero.
As long as one remembers these are nothing like a 1400.00 scope and they are sold as Airsoft take it for what it is a sub 100.00 scope suitable for low recoil recreational shooting.
Finished we referred to the written down numbers and confirmed the zero was back after some turret twisting and clicking.
He explained to me about a box had to be completed then the center. Now he also mentioned that to do this precisely it should be done at 100 yards while shooting but he also said what we did if a pretty good indicator about the tracking regardless as he said a bad scope will need to be tapped, will track diagonally, or not return to zero.
As long as one remembers these are nothing like a 1400.00 scope and they are sold as Airsoft take it for what it is a sub 100.00 scope suitable for low recoil recreational shooting.
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Online from China. It's illegal for them to be sold within Canada.
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Yes it is, but you can't buy them from any Canadian retailer or resell them.
Try TnT Gunworks in Regina.
Was there earlier this year and they have a used clone for the one time unbelievable price of only $349.99!
I don't think anyone gives a rats ass who sells or resells them in Canada. I bought one from a buddy years ago when they came out.
Maybe I should report him?
Did you buy one?
I took my lakefield MK II with the fake leupold, in a boyds SS out yesterday afternoon.
Overall the glass on the fake leupold mark 4 is pretty good for what I paid ($60), I like it much better then that mueller 8-32, it doesn't fish eye nearly as bad.
I was plinking at the 20 yard and 100 yard targets, on the .22 it groups fine, had a few rounds almost touching at 100 yards once I figured out the drop for 100 yards.
After hearing the comments about them not holding up to recoil I wouldn't risk putting one on anything bigger then a rimfire, but for a plinker in .22 or one of the rimfire .17's it is a great scope compared to the cheap tasco's or other rimfire scopes I've had or tried in the past, and the 30mm tube don't hurt it, I was easily able to see where my bullets were hitting at 100 yards with it when the magnification was turned up, and it doesn't get as nasty as some of the other cheap scopes when the magnification is cranked up.
I did notice that the green illumination seemed to stop working though, which is an obvious warning sign of quality, but is a feature mostly for low light shooting, as this is for gophers and targets, best found on sunny days anyways. Also the turrets are exposed, and easy to rotate (easy to knock off of center) so there is a risk of shooting off the mark if shooting them for functions outside of bench shooting or gopher shooting, trekking through the bush for example.
Would I buy again for another rimfire? Yes, but not a high end rimfire, if I was spending over $600 on a .22 you might as well spend the money for more reliable glass though I'm not sure the other glass would do better on a scale of investment to glass quality, your probably looking at $400 plus to find something with equivalent glass and features in a nikon/bushnell/minox etc.
So essentially I guess I would promote the scope only for rim fire rifles that aren't over the top expensive, that doesn't mean I approve of folks getting ripped off on fakes or stealing from other manufacturers, I bought it as a cheap chinese scope for the lakefield, what badge it has on it matters less to me then some of the others on here, I knew what it was when I bought, and wouldn't think of selling it as anything other then a chinese scope should I ever part with it.
Overall the glass on the fake leupold mark 4 is pretty good for what I paid ($60), I like it much better then that mueller 8-32, it doesn't fish eye nearly as bad.
I was plinking at the 20 yard and 100 yard targets, on the .22 it groups fine, had a few rounds almost touching at 100 yards once I figured out the drop for 100 yards.
After hearing the comments about them not holding up to recoil I wouldn't risk putting one on anything bigger then a rimfire, but for a plinker in .22 or one of the rimfire .17's it is a great scope compared to the cheap tasco's or other rimfire scopes I've had or tried in the past, and the 30mm tube don't hurt it, I was easily able to see where my bullets were hitting at 100 yards with it when the magnification was turned up, and it doesn't get as nasty as some of the other cheap scopes when the magnification is cranked up.
I did notice that the green illumination seemed to stop working though, which is an obvious warning sign of quality, but is a feature mostly for low light shooting, as this is for gophers and targets, best found on sunny days anyways. Also the turrets are exposed, and easy to rotate (easy to knock off of center) so there is a risk of shooting off the mark if shooting them for functions outside of bench shooting or gopher shooting, trekking through the bush for example.
Would I buy again for another rimfire? Yes, but not a high end rimfire, if I was spending over $600 on a .22 you might as well spend the money for more reliable glass though I'm not sure the other glass would do better on a scale of investment to glass quality, your probably looking at $400 plus to find something with equivalent glass and features in a nikon/bushnell/minox etc.
So essentially I guess I would promote the scope only for rim fire rifles that aren't over the top expensive, that doesn't mean I approve of folks getting ripped off on fakes or stealing from other manufacturers, I bought it as a cheap chinese scope for the lakefield, what badge it has on it matters less to me then some of the others on here, I knew what it was when I bought, and wouldn't think of selling it as anything other then a chinese scope should I ever part with it.
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So you think it's OK for a Canadian retailer to sell counterfeit products?
Would you be OK with Sears selling fake Canada Goose parka's? Or a jeweller selling fake Rolex's?
They will give a rat's ass when they get caught.
So you think it's OK for a Canadian retailer to sell counterfeit products?
Would you be OK with Sears selling fake Canada Goose parka's? Or a jeweller selling fake Rolex's?
They will give a rat's ass when they get caught.
I think he was being sarcastic, $349.99 isn't a good price for that scope by any stretch, though maybe they got scammed by some other distributor, or then again maybe not.
So you think it's OK for a Canadian retailer to sell counterfeit products?
Would you be OK with Sears selling fake Canada Goose parka's? Or a jeweller selling fake Rolex's?
They will give a rat's ass when they get caught.
I'm smart enough to not buy fake items.
Common sense says if someone is offering you something expensive for a cheaper price it might not be real.
There is nothing wrong with buying a fake Rolex for 20 bucks. ONLY a complete idiot would think it is real. Now, if one of these knockoff scopes was presented as the real thing and you paid the "real" price that is a different story BUT this is not the case. You can go to websites and buy the knock offs for less than 100 bucks delivered to your door. I personally don't known of any firearm owner that would think it is real...
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$20,lol. No, I'm talking about the ones that cost $500 or so and are meant to replicate a $10,000 one. Only a dealer can reliably tell the difference, the new fakes are that good. The issue isn't with them being advertised and sold as fakes, it's when other clowns get ahold of them and post them on sites like eBay as the real thing for just slightly below the price of the real thing. Keep in mind not everyone lives and breathes firearms and optics, some guys are new to the sport and have no knowledge or chance of handling the genuine article beforehand.
Well to me the packaging, instructions, made in China, and low price would be pretty obvious to me as a consumer not to mention a quick Google search with related info would really cinch it. The Airsoft reference also seemed obvious to me that these are not up to .50 cals, but I do understnad there have been people taken but anything ordered on line without holding it is always going to have some element of risk.
It's all about why is it so cheap to me? If it's too good to be true most likely it isn't. I personally have not seen anyone trying to pass these off as the real thing not to say their are those that wouldn't. I do know if you pay with (FRAUD ALERT) you are pretty safe. I bought some glasses off Ebay they were way off, (FRAUD ALERT) said they were custom and I was Sh_t out luck, I called Visa and after I sent proof of return got a credit back.
Really comes down to understanding what you bought and being realistic. I have found these scopes with different logos as well guess Chinese scopes are everywhere now and the numbers are increasing.
It's all about why is it so cheap to me? If it's too good to be true most likely it isn't. I personally have not seen anyone trying to pass these off as the real thing not to say their are those that wouldn't. I do know if you pay with (FRAUD ALERT) you are pretty safe. I bought some glasses off Ebay they were way off, (FRAUD ALERT) said they were custom and I was Sh_t out luck, I called Visa and after I sent proof of return got a credit back.
Really comes down to understanding what you bought and being realistic. I have found these scopes with different logos as well guess Chinese scopes are everywhere now and the numbers are increasing.
