Ultra Rare Ross Rifle Tanker model

[Dosing]

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Just going through some pics from a recent trip, thought the bubba haters would love this, frankly not even close to the worst I saw at this place.

 

[buffdog]

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Love the "Home Gunsmithing Alterations" description. I expect we might see that phrase to describe a "Bubba" sometime in the future for a rifle advertised in the EE.

 

[milsurpo]

At the Calgary show, last weekend, there was a chopped Mk III with an $1100.00 price tag on it. Didn't get a chance to look at it or talk to the owner but the sign said "CRB" markings? It would be nice to know if there ever were any "official" carbines and, if so, how to recognize them.

milsurpo

 

[kennymo]

What's up with 'magazine lift right side in front of receiver' ?

 

[green]

What's up with 'magazine lift right side in front of receiver' ?

Depressing the plate lowers the mag follower allowing the mag to be loaded by dropping in ctgs. Called a Harris mag.

 

[kennymo]

Depressing the plate lowers the mag follower allowing the mag to be loaded by dropping in ctgs. Called a Harris mag.

I thought it might be something different, since the uncut one just says Harris magazine.

 

[Mike Webb]

There were no official carbines made by Ross for military use. Though one of the main complaints from soldiers was the length and unwieldiness of the Mk3 Ross in the trenches.

 

[JimboJones]

Hmmm...

First tanks in service: 1916
Ross withdrawn from regular service: 1916

Likelihood of a tanker version: ~0





Odds that museum's curator is average Joe off the street: Very high.

 

[flying pig]

According to TRRS they did play with a 'short rifle' length similar to the SMLE which never made it into service.

 

[John Sukey]

Can you imagine trying to get out of the turret of any tank while dragging a rifle? No matter how short it was?

 

[sunray]

Cavalry Carbine, maybe. Not tanks.
Hi, John. Think about the size of a Chopper vs an M1 Carbine. Chopper is bigger. 852mm(33") long and 4.9kg(10.8 lbs.) Yikes.

 

[Sharps '63]

The Americans tried a carbine version of the '03 Springfield. Looked good, a delight to carry but troops were almost afraid to touch it off. I think it's mentioned in "Hatcher's Notebook", IIRC.

It was trialed in Panama since it seemed ideal for jungle warfare.

 

[Dosing]

If you want to see 'interesting' milsurps, try the JM Davis museum thread in General. They had alot of bubbaed guns, inclusing cut back Enfield revolvers etc. some intersting mosins as welll, inclusing one with a push up safety within the trigger guard.

 

[Grizzly Adams]

At the Calgary show, last weekend, there was a chopped Mk III with an $1100.00 price tag on it. Didn't get a chance to look at it or talk to the owner but the sign said "CRB" markings? It would be nice to know if there ever were any "official" carbines and, if so, how to recognize them.

milsurpo

Think the Aussies made some, but rarer than hen's teeth.

The .303 Rifle No 6 is another experimental shortened and lightened SMLE intended as a jungle carbine. It weighs around 1.2 lb (.55 kg) less than the standard SMLE. Approximately 100 each of the Mk 1 and Mk 1/1 were produced for trials but never went into production, the war finishing before trials were completed.

Grizz

 

[milsurpo]

Sorry, Grizzly. I wasn't clear in my post- it was a chopped MkIII Ross with an $1100.00 tag on it. There have been rumours about "prison" rifles, I believe, but the one at the show looked like the sporters you used to be able to buy by the bushel.

milsurpo

 

[kawicrash]

I think the tanker description was the OP's joke. It doesn't say anything about that on the card.

Hmmm...

First tanks in service: 1916
Ross withdrawn from regular service: 1916

Likelihood of a tanker version: ~0





Odds that museum's curator is average Joe off the street: Very high.

 

[H Wally]

Yep - display card in the pic says it's a home job.

Sorry, Grizzly. I wasn't clear in my post- it was a chopped MkIII Ross with an $1100.00 tag on it. There have been rumours about "prison" rifles, I believe, but the one at the show looked like the sporters you used to be able to buy by the bushel.

milsurpo

Saw that too... laughed then left. A show that size there's usually at least two of any given item, always fun to see the price differences

 

[cantom]

Let me guess...a massive flaming fireball 3 feet across?

The Americans tried a carbine version of the '03 Springfield. Looked good, a delight to carry but troops were almost afraid to touch it off. I think it's mentioned in "Hatcher's Notebook", IIRC.

It was trialed in Panama since it seemed ideal for jungle warfare.

 

[cantom]

CRB= Crombie I think it was. Smellie and Buffdog did some fine work unearthing the Royal Marines history of the Ross Rifle.

Sporterized after the war. Worth what, maybe $200 to someone who wants it.

At the Calgary show, last weekend, there was a chopped Mk III with an $1100.00 price tag on it. Didn't get a chance to look at it or talk to the owner but the sign said "CRB" markings? It would be nice to know if there ever were any "official" carbines and, if so, how to recognize them.

milsurpo

 

[kjohn]

I'll bet that the "shortened" Ross was Churchill's personal rifle.