CG X-Treme Mod 22 2-stage Trigger
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Thanks for the info things have changed from before. This is good news just checked their website and certain products under $500 can be exported without a permit to Canada. Looking forward to seeing their new single stage trigger.
I hope bikeracer is correct...When I spoke with Tom Myers Feb 2015 to try and get a trigger he wouldn't ship to Canada. What i informally found out was the US Military has procured the trigger for their sniper program. The result is that the trigger now has a US military NSN number and is subject to more stringent export requirements.
If not great... group buy... sign me up but he wouldn't ship to me when i asked.
Trevor
If not great... group buy... sign me up but he wouldn't ship to me when i asked.
Trevor
That is pretty horrible news. I have two and bought them both directly from Tom. He shipped them under the $500 ITAR exception. I personally feel they are the best trigger you can get for a M700.
Maybe he can send up the target triggers? They are kind of different...
Maybe he can send up the target triggers? They are kind of different...
You maybe correct about triggers with the optional safety that is US Mil spec to a 1.5m drop. However this is my thought for most target shooter they do NOT need the optional safety thus those trigger without the mil spec safety are not Miltary approved and do not fall under the extra scrutiny of the US Mil NSN # and export requirements. Just my thought I haven't confirmed this but seems logical. That is why it is posted up as a caveat that certain parts could be exported.
"Special Note to our Canadian neighbors: The DDTC (agency under the U.S. State dept.) has made an exception to the above law. If a product is under $500 dealer or wholesale price, it may be shipped to Canada without an export license! This is really good news!" from x-tremeshooting website.
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Sometimes it's better not to have it figure out.
We don't want another Microfit incident on this website. I don't think anyone wants to be the goat who kill the goose that laid the golden egg so to say.Guy,
Thought I would join your forum and post what info I know to help clear things up.
Trevor60. I apologize for telling you that I couldn't ship to Canada. If I said that I must have been sidetracked or thought you were from elsewhere? Don't remember.
This is what I know:
We now have 3 NSN's. One for the Mk13, Mk 15. And Mk 21.
The U.S. Munitions list (which can easily be found and downloaded on the Internet covers Category 1 (small arms) up to submarines and missiles and such.
The U.S. Munitions list does not distinguish between sporting and civilian weapons and equipment except for shotguns and black powder stuff. All firearms and components of firearms are controlled items by the U.S. State Dept.
The rules and regulations were relaxed a little especially to Canada, probably because of some lobbying efforts?) items can exported anywhere if they have a wholesale cost of less than $100. To Canada, it has been raised to $500. I believe that part changed a couple of years ago now?
There has been zero talk down here about more stringent export requirements. I talk to a half dozen different dealers, manufacturers, every week. No one has brought that topic up?
The Mk13 is very close to an off the shelf rifle. It is the Stiller long action for 300 Win Mag in the all FDE 2014 Accuracy International AX chassis. It has a Lilja barrel on it. The profile for the barrel is readily available off the Internet. We supply the trigger for that rifle and since that has become news to shooters here in the US, we have received a lot of interest in selling the correct trigger for that rifle to the public. So we are thinking about making a small quantity of those triggers available for retail sales after we deliver the required quantity to SOCOM. That trigger is just a militarized Mod 22 tactical trigger. It has a redundant safety that the commercial version does not and has a 4# spring set in it. Down here, civilian shooters hate that heavy of a trigger pull, but that's what the military requires.
If I hear of anything that I have said here that is incorrect or if I hear about any changes coming, I will post them here for you boys.
Good shooting to all.
Tom Myers
XTPS, LLC
Cincinnati, OH
Thought I would join your forum and post what info I know to help clear things up.
Trevor60. I apologize for telling you that I couldn't ship to Canada. If I said that I must have been sidetracked or thought you were from elsewhere? Don't remember.
This is what I know:
We now have 3 NSN's. One for the Mk13, Mk 15. And Mk 21.
The U.S. Munitions list (which can easily be found and downloaded on the Internet covers Category 1 (small arms) up to submarines and missiles and such.
The U.S. Munitions list does not distinguish between sporting and civilian weapons and equipment except for shotguns and black powder stuff. All firearms and components of firearms are controlled items by the U.S. State Dept.
The rules and regulations were relaxed a little especially to Canada, probably because of some lobbying efforts?) items can exported anywhere if they have a wholesale cost of less than $100. To Canada, it has been raised to $500. I believe that part changed a couple of years ago now?
There has been zero talk down here about more stringent export requirements. I talk to a half dozen different dealers, manufacturers, every week. No one has brought that topic up?
The Mk13 is very close to an off the shelf rifle. It is the Stiller long action for 300 Win Mag in the all FDE 2014 Accuracy International AX chassis. It has a Lilja barrel on it. The profile for the barrel is readily available off the Internet. We supply the trigger for that rifle and since that has become news to shooters here in the US, we have received a lot of interest in selling the correct trigger for that rifle to the public. So we are thinking about making a small quantity of those triggers available for retail sales after we deliver the required quantity to SOCOM. That trigger is just a militarized Mod 22 tactical trigger. It has a redundant safety that the commercial version does not and has a 4# spring set in it. Down here, civilian shooters hate that heavy of a trigger pull, but that's what the military requires.
If I hear of anything that I have said here that is incorrect or if I hear about any changes coming, I will post them here for you boys.
Good shooting to all.
Tom Myers
XTPS, LLC
Cincinnati, OH
calgarycanada
CGN Regular
- Location
- Calgary, Canada
Canadaammo will have them available in May 2015.
thank you and welcome to CGN
I also apologies for adding (creating the confusion)
I appreciate you clearing that up for us. no worries about the miscommunication i guess i needed to be clearer with my intentions and instructions. we talked about fitting one for my Kelbly atlas action (lefthand)
As for the NSN info... i collected it independently off the internet the information did not come from Tom or XTPS, LLC
Trevor
I also apologies for adding (creating the confusion)
I appreciate you clearing that up for us. no worries about the miscommunication i guess i needed to be clearer with my intentions and instructions. we talked about fitting one for my Kelbly atlas action (lefthand)
As for the NSN info... i collected it independently off the internet the information did not come from Tom or XTPS, LLC
Trevor
Welcome to CGN. Thanks Tom for the information and clarification. Just wondering when would our single stage be available to the public?
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