Polar Bears Are In Serious Danger, Thanks To The NRA

lol you are off your rocker heck elephants only cost $35,000 for a tag last time I checked that does not include trophy fees and such but still

If the problem is said to be the "high" demand that will arise as a result of legal imports of polar bear trophies, then we should allow supply and demand to set the price... as it is, a polar bear hunt is a rich man's game and beyond the means of most working class outdoorsmen... so set a ridiculous price to the few tags available and let S&D rule the day... many that don't want to shoot an elephant, do want to shoot a polar bear... and for some of those, price is no object... if you find the hypothetical (arbitrary) price I randomly suggested to be ludicrous, then you will not be one of the hypothetical hunters paying said price, to harvest a Canadian polar bear.
 
If the problem is said to be the "high" demand that will arise as a result of legal imports of polar bear trophies, then we should allow supply and demand to set the price... as it is, a polar bear hunt is a rich man's game and beyond the means of most working class outdoorsmen... so set a ridiculous price to the few tags available and let S&D rule the day... many that don't want to shoot an elephant, do want to shoot a polar bear... and for some of those, price is no object... if you find the hypothetical (arbitrary) price I randomly suggested to be ludicrous, then you will not be one of the hypothetical hunters paying said price, to harvest a Canadian polar bear.

well I have never had someone say ludicrous in a conversation before so knows is my time to say get back get back you don't know me like that. I can't remember the price for polar bear its been a few years but I know its not all that up there personally even a elephant would be out of reach $35,000 is what most people make in a year around here
 
Well, in my time in the arctic, there were p-bears everywhere. Where I was they had a quota of 35 but way more were taken because they were all over the place. I will say that boiled, they are the best meat in the arctic, hands down. No matter what someone tells you about walrus, just don't. I would drive through town and there were skins everywhere stretched on frames. It wasn't hard to figure that way more than 35 were taken, but the first 35 reported back to town got tags and the hunter could then sell them for profit. On the opening day of the hunt, in the first 15 minutes I was sitting with the local CO as he took names on the radio for the first 10.... I guess they were shot right at opening minute or so.

So my experience in the north is: a) there's WAY more bears than they think. b) if the Inuit don't impose controls on themselves, good luck bears if the enviro nuts are right. c) However, I don't think the enviro nuts are anywhere near right, and this law could bring in tons of needed cash in the north.
 
Being familiar with the problem of travelling with seal skin and ivory Highland gear that isn't allowed into the USA, I can assert that anyone trying to bring sea mammal or designated endangered species products across the border had better have both his congressman and his lawyer with him, not just a mere letter.


David Suzuki says they will all perish with the climate change, so we might as well shoot them while we can.:rolleyes:

It's the humane thing to do.

You live in Ottawa, but are an expert on the status of Polar bears?

I don't get it- you quote a question from the guy but at the same time seem to be accusing him of being a phoney expert?
 
Wild game is a renewable resource. Polar bears reproduce while young, and when they get old they die, just like any other animal on the planet. Trophy hunters are interested in big, old, bears, and killing such a bear, or any other animal, in the last year or two of its life has no effect on the overall population of that species. Trophy hunters are after a specific animal, a very smart and successful animal, living in one of the most hostile environments on the planet. By comparison, meat hunters are non-specific, and will shoot any legal animal they encounter. While there isn't anything wrong with meat hunting, provided its practiced within the parameters of good management procedures, I bring it up to illustrate the low impact trophy hunting has on the health of a species. Its much more challenging to hunt an old experienced, successful, specific animal than it is to hunt just any herd animal. The animals that kill the most number of polar bears are other polar bears; adult male bears commonly cannibalize cubs, and so will a sow under some conditions, and I have photos to prove it. The slogan should be, "Save a cub, shoot a boar". This animal rights group is less interested in the health of polar bear populations, and more interested in advancing their particular agenda.
 
Who cares what bills get passed in the USA... The lower 48 has no polar bears... and we aren't giving up our bears without appropriate compensation for a manageable resource... soak them for $100,000/bear and feed a community... the bear population will continue to be managed.

The people who are denied the lucrative income from bear hunters coming to their communities are concerned about legislation in the lower 48, and by extension, so should we be. You can't charge someone $100K for a hunt if he can't take the skin and the skull home.
 
More polar bears could be killed is BS of the highest order. Apparently, the Defense of Animals twit has never heard of The International Agreement for the Conservation of Polar Bears and Their Habitat. Signed by all countries that have polar bear populations (USA, Russia, Canada, Greenland/Denmark and Norway) in 1973.
 
The people who are denied the lucrative income from bear hunters coming to their communities are concerned about legislation in the lower 48, and by extension, so should we be. You can't charge someone $100K for a hunt if he can't take the skin and the skull home.

That was my point.
 
hunting bears- polars included - is a 2 way street- if you're hunting them, they're hunting you unless there's something else on their minds- there's lots of inuit that have gone out after polars and haven't come back- the few that the Americans do get really don't amout to much in numbers but count a great deal to village prosperity
btw, while real polars may be endangered, there's a thing out there called a "growler" - a polar/grizzly hybrid- that is starting to show up more frequently- maybe endangered, maybe the next step on the evolutionary ladder- who knows
 
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btw, while real polars may be endangered, there's a thing out there called a "growler" - a polar/grizzly hybrid- that is starting to show up more frequently- maybe endangered, maybe the next step on the evolutionary ladder- who knows

Mix in a little Sasquatch DNA and we're really up $hit Creek!
 
Polar/grizzly crosses would actually be an evolutionary reversal, seeing as how the biologists believe that the polar evolved from the grizzly strain in the first place................
 
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