Letter to Remington about crappy SPS stock

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I did a search on this site and there doesn't seem to be any discussion about the stock that comes with the Remington M700 SPS Varmint. Here is the text of an email sent to Remington about my experiences with this stock. I don't ever expect to get a reply, actually I don't really need one from them What I want people to realize is that if you buy one of these guns expect to shell out an extra few $$'s for a good quality stock in addition to the price of the gun.

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Hi there,

I am a past member of the Canadian National Rifle Team (11 yrs) and have shot internationally etc. so I know a bit about accurate guns and shooting.

I recently bought a M700 SPS Varmint in .308W. I was pretty excited to take it out to the range and see how it would do. My first go was with some Federal match ammunition. The groups at 100 yards were terrible. Maybe three in a nice group and then two flyers.

Having been down this road before I worked up a bunch of hand loads using 168gr. SMK's. Again lousy groups with all powder charges.

I assumed, incorrectly I found out, that the barrel would be free floating. What I found was a number of high spots that put pressure on the barrel. Some were from the side, some from underneath. In fact I found that the stock is slightly crooked/warped.

Off to the internet I go and what do I find? Lots of people griping about the stock that comes with these rifles.

It seems I will have to buy a new, better quality, stock to achieve the accuracy I expected from this rifle. Considering I have already spent good money on this rifle the additional expense is totally unjustified in my opinion. In fact I feel gypped.

The Remington of the 70's and 80's, the last time I used a Remington product, would not have let something like this out the door. What has happened?
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That's it. I have ordered a Bell & Carlson stock from Prophet River. Take this as an FYI as they say your mileage may vary.

Eric
 
It is pretty well known that this rifle uses a stock that many find to be quite poor. If I recall correctly it is the Hogue overmoulded stock and it is one that I invariably recommend be replaced. Incidentally, the B+C stocks represent excellent value across the board.
 
I have SPS Tactical's in .223, .308 and AAC .300 Blackout.... the stocks rub the barrel like an uneven mountain range on all.... would have rathered that i could have purchased without stocks for some savings and upgraded to something worthwhile. ... I do like my 700's but I'm sorta done with Remington for the next couple of years... I'll wait a bit and see what happens to their quality...
 
If you're disappointed now just wait until the bolt handle falls off:p:nest:

My father in law has an early 80's long action 700 and you can tell more care went into making it than some of the stuff they pump out today.
 
Those stocks are junk, but the price of the rifle reflects that.
Barrelled action should be good to go and a stock upgrade will be a huge improvement and still a reasonable price all in.
 
"I am a past member of the Canadian National Rifle Team (11 yrs) and have shot internationally etc. so I know a bit about accurate guns and shooting."

I haven't been on the Canadian National Rifle Team for 11 years, but in the first nano second of holding the rifle, I figured it out.

Reading your letter, I picture "that guy". The guy who eats 7/8 of his Vegas buffet steak, before he complains about it tasting like a boot.

Cheers
 
I love you too 9x19p ;) Actually I had my suspicions but I have been away from shooting for awhile and thought all this new fangle "plastic" stock stuff might have something to it. Evidently not. At least in the Remington case.
 
I bought a Rem 700 BDL Custon Deluxe(LH) in .308W in 1988.
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This is why the Internet is a great tool when it comes to this, research, research and research. I get what you are stayin with buy a new rifle and it shoots like crap but for whatever reason remington has decided to turn and blind eye to the subject and still produce a very popular rifle. That seems to be a the popular thing to do when you buy m700. Get a new stock and upgrade the trigger.
 
I think a Timney trigger will be the next purchase, although the stock trigger isn't horrible. Hey Blackradon171 might see you out at the Homestead Range one of these days.
 
New trigger would be good od upgrade! Few options out there, I ended up with the timney 510. You see them of EE sections every now and again or if you wanna buy new there is a sponcer that works out of calgary, accurateaction.com. As for the range, Ive never been to that range, I was just thinking about it the other day and how I should check it out.
 
What a whiner. I think I bought my sps varmint for $659. Probably way cheaper than any 700 in 20 years. Obviously it is wearing tupperwear and is not an f class or tactical stock. I basically figured I was buying a barreled action that was sitting in a temp stock. If you want MOA, pay up. If you want to get into an affordable rifle that will group well and you can upgrade later, buy an sps. To the OP: quit your b**ching.
 
If your expecting a good stock don'tget the cheapest model. What do you expect them to cheap out on when the actions and barrels are the same for most of the 700s.. Obviously the stock.
 
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