New to Canada semi-auto 410 mag fed shotgun. The CATUS!!

[LuckyLuc82]

Took my new 410 out today and all I have to say is Martin from Corwin Arms you are one evil bastard!! This gun is absolutely amazing. I don't even know where to start.

here is a short list of pros: accurate, zero recoil (I know obvious..), no feeding or extraction issues with any ammo I used, super addictive!!! Here are some pics.

Cons: wish it was a tad cheaper so I could buy a second one. Needs a pistol grip stock. 410 ammo needs to be cheaper as this is way too fun to shoot.


Fired mostly slugs but also #4 and #6 at between 10 meters with shot, and 30 meters with slugs all offhand no support.







Here is a quick video:

So Martin, please hook me up with some cheap 410 ammo!!! And a pistol grip stock!!!

 

[trebor2880]

Looks like a fun gun!

 

[Brutus]

Once upon a time I owned a 22/410 Garcia-Bronco combination gun.

For sh@ts and giggles I 'reloaded' factory 410 by removing the smaller factory birdshot and replacing it with three 000 buckshot pellets. Sealing the crimped end once again with candle wax.

Most often the result at 20 yards was a 3 pellet two inch group.

If this ammunition can with stand the rattle and shake of a semi-auto, maybe this is a cheaper option for you......

 

[fiddler]

.410 is the cheapest shotshell to reload. Hulls can be used as many as 15 to 20 times before they come apart or crack. I can load bird rounds for under 15 cents each.

 

[Juster]

Looks like a fun gun!

I was about to type the very same words. I want one but I don't know why.
Maybe I could buy 5 Grizzly mag magazines and weld them together. That would also be fun but cheaper.

 

[conor_90]

Would look pretty cool with wood furniture.

wonder if they come in 20 gauge

 

[3macs1]

.410 is the cheapest shotshell to reload. Hulls can be used as many as 15 to 20 times before they come apart or crack. I can load bird rounds for under 15 cents each.

Cheapest ???? I sure am doing something wrong for 40 plus years Maybe if you reload junk Hulls , with CB wads and put very little powder in them. 15 to 20 times??? OK I get it now . Start with 3" burn the ends off those first that is 10 reloads then cut back for 2 1/2 then reload those for another 10 Just joking
I am courious what type of hulls do you use to give 20 with a good quality crimp still
I have AA old and HS, STS and old premier and federals and cannot do 20 with 296 powder
10-12 reloads yes with some in one make for skeet loads but after that they are not worth wasting the components and I am talking years of reloading 1000's and 1000's of 410
Please share
Cheers

 

[BrotherRockeye]

who's creep feeder were you shooting holes in...or whatever that is?

 

[RedApe]

http://www.all4shooters.com/en/spec.../Hatsan-Escort-Raider-semi-automatic-shotgun/

I'll take the Hatsan anyday. Hopefully Bell Industries brings some in.

 

[Brutus]

Would look pretty cool with wood furniture.

wonder if they come in 20 gauge

I think this fine shotgun model would loose it's slender rifle-like look if one made it in 20 gauge.

but that's just me

 

[dand883]

http://www.all4shooters.com/en/spec.../Hatsan-Escort-Raider-semi-automatic-shotgun/

I'll take the Hatsan anyday. Hopefully Bell Industries brings some in.

The raider is pretty badass looking. One drawback for me is that they only seem to come with fixed cylinder barrels, where these catus guns will have a removable chokes.

 

[M12shooter]

.410 is the cheapest shotshell to reload. Hulls can be used as many as 15 to 20 times before they come apart or crack. I can load bird rounds for under 15 cents each.

Don't know what kind of hulls your using to get 15-20 reads out of them. Most of mine are pretty burn up after 5 loads...and yes super cheap to re-load...albeit a paining the a$$... but vicious expensive to buy factory stuff.

 

[Lucky Plucker]

https://www.ammosupply.ca/info/229/

 

[Lucky Plucker]

https://www.ammosupply.ca/info/229/

 

[Mumbles Marble Mouth]

I think it looks really cool. It doesn't even look like a shotgun it looks more like a rifle. Would be sweet if you could get a pistol grip stock for it.

 

[fiddler]

Don't know what kind of hulls your using to get 15-20 reads out of them. Most of mine are pretty burn up after 5 loads...and yes super cheap to re-load...albeit a paining the a$$... but vicious expensive to buy factory stuff.

I use the winchester red 3 inch hulls and load them with #7 shot. Some don't make it to ten rounds, but others make it to 20 shots. I used to mark them with a sharpie but don't feel a need to do it anymore. The crimps slowly get messed up but will still pattern ok. I toss them when the hull blows out or the brass splits. They don't need to be pretty or perfect for popping chickens up to 30 yards.

 

[grelmar]

I bought a single shot .410 specifically to fire form .303 brass into .410 full brass hulls. Takes a couple of shots firing a full powder load with rice as the projectile, but the end result is a .410 hull that can be reloaded 100's of times.

 

[mrgoat]

Cheapest ???? I sure am doing something wrong for 40 plus years Maybe if you reload junk Hulls , with CB wads and put very little powder in them. 15 to 20 times??? OK I get it now . Start with 3" burn the ends off those first that is 10 reloads then cut back for 2 1/2 then reload those for another 10 Just joking
I am courious what type of hulls do you use to give 20 with a good quality crimp still
I have AA old and HS, STS and old premier and federals and cannot do 20 with 296 powder
10-12 reloads yes with some in one make for skeet loads but after that they are not worth wasting the components and I am talking years of reloading 1000's and 1000's of 410
Please share
Cheers

I agree whole heartedly with 3macs. I shot the 410 for years at skeet. Reloaded thousands of Win. AA 410 hulls with Win 296. 10-12 reloads at best and the hulls are garbage. The hulls won't hold any sort of decent crimp then you loose shot, wad pressure, then velocity. If your pushing 20 reloads out of a hull that is loaded for target use they have to be some rough looking reloads that are grossly under performing at the target end.

 

[kamlooky]

I bought a single shot .410 specifically to fire form .303 brass into .410 full brass hulls. Takes a couple of shots firing a full powder load with rice as the projectile, but the end result is a .410 hull that can be reloaded 100's of times.

This is worthy of doing a step by step with a fotobucket full of photos.....................

 

[grelmar]

This is worthy of doing a step by step with a fotobucket full of photos.....................

Here's a link

Or, if I wanted to be less of a jerk (it goes against my nature, but I'll try) :

Best article:

http://www.surplusfirearm.com/2011/11/16/303-british-to-410-shotshell-conversion/

And a couple of annoyingly narrated vids:

Apparently, you can do the same thing with 45-70 brass, and a few other of the older "1st generation" brass cartridge calibres. The reason being, all these shells were developped around the same time (late 1800's). To save money, the different gun makers messed around with cases made from the same brass draws (tubes) and rims, and then monkeyed with different case lengths, and necking down the case for different calibres.

I've been playing with the idea for a while. I usually have some .303 brass kicking around, so I bought a break-action .410 a month ago pretty much just to give it a try. So long as I'm careful about powder loads, I'll be safe, even if the end result is some useless brass.